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Casey Jordan

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

So it's a piece of paper that helps if that person violates it.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

A lot of times it will say, do not write, do not call, do not come within 300 yards of this person.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

And if they do that, you call the police and you've got backup.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

You've got something that could get them arrested.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

But in this particular case, he actually followed the parameters of the order and he did not contact her for six years.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

Right.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

Now, all 50 states have some version of anti-stalking laws, but they are dramatically different and sometimes they are very vague and open to interpretation.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

but the stalking usually has a few elements first of all it is repeated and unwanted uh contact and there's a pattern right so many of our stalking laws do not include their outdated um prohibitions against cyber stalking right there's no law against writing letters to people you can write letters to people and email people all you like but it has to be elevated to the form of harassment

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

And that very often is a subjective interpretation.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

So it's really difficult sometimes to convince a judge or a prosecutor or even a cop, if you've called, that this has elevated to the point of unwanted contact that is harassment and the pattern makes me feel threatened.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

He followed her to a whole new town where she relocated after finishing her master's in social work.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

She got a job in Traverse City, Michigan and settled there.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

He followed her there.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

She gets on a soccer team, adult soccer team, and he joins the soccer league.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

Why should she drop off the soccer team?

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

Why should she be on her?

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

Why should she have to quit going to the gym that she goes to when he suddenly shows up at the gym?

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

Because then she's running and that gives him power.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

But sometimes for the people reviewing these requests for the order of protection, this one was considered a complex relationship.

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The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror

The first one just put him on pause for six years.