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Casey Liss

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Reading from Mark Gurman at Bloomberg.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Apple has expanded the job of hardware chief John Ternes to include design work, solidifying his status as a leading contender to eventually succeed chief executive officer Tim Cook.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Cook tapped Ternes to manage the company's design teams at the end of last year.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

People with knowledge of the move said that Cook himself was trying to expose Ternes to more parts of the company's operations.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

In this case, one that Cook doesn't know anything about.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Hey, the role was held by Johnny.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Oh, sick burn.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Until his departure in 2019, Cook oversaw design from 2015 to 2017 when I've temporarily stepped back from the position.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Jeff Williams most recently held the job up until his retirement at the end of 2025.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Ternus is now billed internally as the executive sponsor for all design on Cook's management team.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

That entails being a bridge between design staff and Apple's top brass.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

He represents the design organization in executive team gatherings and manages the group's leaders.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

The heads of Apple's design teams continue to report directly to Cook in both internal organizational charts and the company's public disclosures.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Having Ternus oversee the design teams while they still technically report to Cook is a strange arrangement, according to Apple employees, but it's a sensitive situation.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Changing the reporting structure would affirm Ternus' status as a rising star at a time when the company is still keeping its succession planning under wraps.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

So then in a different post, Mark Gurman writes, even with hardware chief John Ternus now overseeing the operation, there's no single design decision maker at Apple.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

During the Steve Jobs era, the company co-founder was firmly in charge.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

But after his passing, the ultimate design arbiter was Johnny Ive.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

But it's more recently been a committee.

Accidental Tech Podcast
676: A Sternly Worded Instruction

Besides Ternus, software head Greg Federighi and marketing chief Greg Joswiak and even services boss Eddie Q to some extent all have sway.