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Casey Liss

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Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

sure how they're going to do this because i think the way google did it like you essentially need key exchange servers like essentially the servers that apple runs for imessage that handle like negotiations between the parties and sort of like allow the intent encryption to happen right they're not they can't obviously they can't see or infiltrate it that's the whole point but you still need kind of like a middle party to mediate the exchange and so google has that so if you're doing like android rcs from another android phone it goes through google servers just like imessage goes through apple servers but it doesn't help

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

sure how they're going to do this because i think the way google did it like you essentially need key exchange servers like essentially the servers that apple runs for imessage that handle like negotiations between the parties and sort of like allow the intent encryption to happen right they're not they can't obviously they can't see or infiltrate it that's the whole point but you still need kind of like a middle party to mediate the exchange and so google has that so if you're doing like android rcs from another android phone it goes through google servers just like imessage goes through apple servers but it doesn't help

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

When you're using RCS between an iPhone and an Android phone, you don't get the encryption there. So the GSM Association is coming up with a standard for this, but then who's going to run the servers? Like, does Apple stand up its own sort of RCS key exchange servers? Does Google open up its servers to everybody? Do the carriers run the servers?

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

When you're using RCS between an iPhone and an Android phone, you don't get the encryption there. So the GSM Association is coming up with a standard for this, but then who's going to run the servers? Like, does Apple stand up its own sort of RCS key exchange servers? Does Google open up its servers to everybody? Do the carriers run the servers?

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

I'm not quite sure how this is going to work, but it's good to see that they're working on it a little bit. It would be better if the RCS standard came out of the gate with a solution to this problem, but it absolutely did not. I want to ask Casey, though, because I think you're the main one who has complained about having conversations with Android people and dropping messages and everything.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

I'm not quite sure how this is going to work, but it's good to see that they're working on it a little bit. It would be better if the RCS standard came out of the gate with a solution to this problem, but it absolutely did not. I want to ask Casey, though, because I think you're the main one who has complained about having conversations with Android people and dropping messages and everything.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

Have you actually used RCS to your knowledge? And is it better than it was when you were just using SMS?

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

Have you actually used RCS to your knowledge? And is it better than it was when you were just using SMS?

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

There's also some confusion about when the iOS messages app shows RCS like as placeholder text in the text field to tell you that it's RCS. But in some cases, it's not really RCS. It might just show that now, even when it's just doing MMS stuff. I don't know. There's some confusion about that. But anyway, good luck in getting everyone upgraded and let us know if that improves your life.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

There's also some confusion about when the iOS messages app shows RCS like as placeholder text in the text field to tell you that it's RCS. But in some cases, it's not really RCS. It might just show that now, even when it's just doing MMS stuff. I don't know. There's some confusion about that. But anyway, good luck in getting everyone upgraded and let us know if that improves your life.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

I mean, the big thing is the images aren't terribly overcompressed thumbnails.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

I mean, the big thing is the images aren't terribly overcompressed thumbnails.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

I mean, again, I don't know how this affects the thing we talked about in the past where you can just use the plist thing to override it, although one of the feedback that we got was that 15.1 was the one that used...

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

I mean, again, I don't know how this affects the thing we talked about in the past where you can just use the plist thing to override it, although one of the feedback that we got was that 15.1 was the one that used...

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

bundle identifiers in the plist instead of using paths to the application so I guess that thing is still there but like now that we know that that exists and until Apple invalidates that this entire thing just seems like a waste of time like don't bother trying to

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

bundle identifiers in the plist instead of using paths to the application so I guess that thing is still there but like now that we know that that exists and until Apple invalidates that this entire thing just seems like a waste of time like don't bother trying to

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

do things to make it less annoying because the only reason that anyone would ever be accepted of any annoyance here is in exchange for increased security for the purpose they wanted to do.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

do things to make it less annoying because the only reason that anyone would ever be accepted of any annoyance here is in exchange for increased security for the purpose they wanted to do.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

You don't have an app that's recording without your knowledge, that you forget about it or didn't know about it, and you want the OS to say, hey, you might not know this or you might not remember this, but app X is recording your screen. That is the supposed security benefit, right? And there are many possible scenarios in which that could be beneficial.

Accidental Tech Podcast
608: Boot to Toot

You don't have an app that's recording without your knowledge, that you forget about it or didn't know about it, and you want the OS to say, hey, you might not know this or you might not remember this, but app X is recording your screen. That is the supposed security benefit, right? And there are many possible scenarios in which that could be beneficial.