Casey Liss

the iPhone SE so neglected is this previous year's model with a new name or whatever, but the iPhone SE exists. Um, and somewhat related to this, uh, the, uh, the, the iPhone mini a 17 parentheses, a 17 pro, which is what Apple calls the new iPhone mini. Um, uh, is connected to the iPhone 17 rumors.

These are actual rumors as opposed to just wish-casting that we talked about in the overtime where Max Tech was talking about iPhone Air, iPhone Ultra, or whatever, just like this would make a nice set of names. These, I think, are actual rumors, and the rumor being that the iPhone 17 lineup will drop the numbers and instead be iPhone parentheses A19, iPhone parentheses A19 Pro.

These are actual rumors as opposed to just wish-casting that we talked about in the overtime where Max Tech was talking about iPhone Air, iPhone Ultra, or whatever, just like this would make a nice set of names. These, I think, are actual rumors, and the rumor being that the iPhone 17 lineup will drop the numbers and instead be iPhone parentheses A19, iPhone parentheses A19 Pro.

And so the names would be iPhone, iPhone Pro, iPhone Max, iPhone, whatever they are, iPhone suffix, right? But without the number, like the number wouldn't go up. And the way we would distinguish them is the same way we distinguish, for example, iPads. And this happened ages ago. I think we even talked about it on the show when the quote unquote new iPad came out.

And so the names would be iPhone, iPhone Pro, iPhone Max, iPhone, whatever they are, iPhone suffix, right? But without the number, like the number wouldn't go up. And the way we would distinguish them is the same way we distinguish, for example, iPads. And this happened ages ago. I think we even talked about it on the show when the quote unquote new iPad came out.

Were we running ATP when that happened? I don't even know. But they dropped the numbers that said iPads aren't going to have numbers. This is just the new iPad. And we're like, how are we going to tell you had an iPad? And now this year there's another thing called iPad, but it's a different product. How are we going to distinguish them?

Were we running ATP when that happened? I don't even know. But they dropped the numbers that said iPads aren't going to have numbers. This is just the new iPad. And we're like, how are we going to tell you had an iPad? And now this year there's another thing called iPad, but it's a different product. How are we going to distinguish them?

And the answer was parentheses, you know, second generation, third generation over the same thing with Macs. All these Mac minis, you're telling me they're all called Mac mini? How do I tell which Mac mini do I have? Do they have years in them, do whatever? And the answer is that some phrase in parentheses after it that tells you what it is.

And the answer was parentheses, you know, second generation, third generation over the same thing with Macs. All these Mac minis, you're telling me they're all called Mac mini? How do I tell which Mac mini do I have? Do they have years in them, do whatever? And the answer is that some phrase in parentheses after it that tells you what it is.

Sometimes it's a year, sometimes it's, in the past it's been like, you know, MacBook Pro parentheses dual USB, like all sorts of stuff. But the rumor is that this would be kind of like the iPhone SE, right? The iPhone SE 4, all right, versus iPhone SE parentheses A16 or something like that.

Sometimes it's a year, sometimes it's, in the past it's been like, you know, MacBook Pro parentheses dual USB, like all sorts of stuff. But the rumor is that this would be kind of like the iPhone SE, right? The iPhone SE 4, all right, versus iPhone SE parentheses A16 or something like that.

I'm not entirely sure that the parentheses stuff version of Apple naming is any better than just calling an iPhone 17. In many ways, it's worse. But it is interesting that the iPhones have stubbornly stuck with these numbers.

I'm not entirely sure that the parentheses stuff version of Apple naming is any better than just calling an iPhone 17. In many ways, it's worse. But it is interesting that the iPhones have stubbornly stuck with these numbers.

I remember years ago, people were like, well, surely when they get to 10 or 11 or 12, they're going to stop because iPhone 17 sounds so dumb or iPhone 16, whatever number everyone was saying sounded so dumb. We've already been there and done that and sold that phone and we all survived, right? But...

I remember years ago, people were like, well, surely when they get to 10 or 11 or 12, they're going to stop because iPhone 17 sounds so dumb or iPhone 16, whatever number everyone was saying sounded so dumb. We've already been there and done that and sold that phone and we all survived, right? But...

The fact is, the Macs, the iPads, and lots of other Apple products don't have numbers in the official product names, but the iPhone still does. So are we all looking at a future where every product, including the iPhone SE and all the iPads and all the iPhones, has some weird thing in parentheses after it? Or are we just going to keep making that number go up until we're an iPhone 137?

The fact is, the Macs, the iPads, and lots of other Apple products don't have numbers in the official product names, but the iPhone still does. So are we all looking at a future where every product, including the iPhone SE and all the iPads and all the iPhones, has some weird thing in parentheses after it? Or are we just going to keep making that number go up until we're an iPhone 137?

We used to have this discussion and people would say, does anyone want the iPhone 15? That's ridiculous.

We used to have this discussion and people would say, does anyone want the iPhone 15? That's ridiculous.

What are the official Apple names of the, I haven't even looked. What are actually the official name of the MacBook Pros these days?