610: More Values in the Darkness

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John Siracusa 0:00
We have a follow-up item that we have just been told that we aren't allowed to do.
Marco Arment 0:06
We're starting tonight with violence, I see.
Casey Liss 0:09
I would not agree with that characterization. I would say it was suggested that we not spoil one of our member specials as an enticement for people to become members because then they will already know what happens. But now they have to become members to find out. And that was my suggestion. Not an edict, not a command, but a suggestion.
John Siracusa 0:25
Let's just say, listeners, that in the latest member special about the tier list for storage media, One of the hosts of the show was down on a medium for being apparently unreliable.
Casey Liss 0:41
Could you characterize that down? Exactly how down was this host? The host was me. How down? Like F tier?
John Siracusa 0:48
Is that what you're talking about? What tier would you say? we've had people write in who who have basically written in to say things like i've read a thousand of them recently and they've all been fine anyway so all this is to say we we don't want to spoil what this is but rest assured listeners we are getting your feedback and two of the three of us really appreciate it two-thirds of your hosts are very excited
Casey Liss 1:12
I'll say that's interesting because what I was going to say is I also see all the feedback and I think the feedback is pretty much evenly split. No, no, there is pretty much evenly split.
Marco Arment 1:22
No, admittedly, all three of us have biases and priors here, but hand to God, to my eyes, it has been at best one third in favor of the host who shall remain nameless. That is still very wrong. And two thirds in favor of the other two thirds of the show.
Casey Liss 1:39
Fantastic. I didn't actually count them because I didn't think I'd get any resistance to this because it was so clear from the feedback that I'm getting that it's pretty evenly split. Oh, please. Go read them again. Well, maybe we should count them up. Here's one of the problems with getting feedback on Mastodon is that we all see the stuff that at mentions ATP FM, but I only see the stuff that just at mentions me and you only see the stuff that just at mentions you. So we're actually not looking at the same pool. So that does complicate things.
Marco Arment 2:02
That is true. I will concede that. And it would not surprise me if your flying monkeys were quick to report. Well, no, actually, your flying monkeys would call Marco and I out for sure.
Casey Liss 2:11
They would not shy away. Sometimes they do. I pasted one of them into Slack for you to see. Because that's why I didn't understand the point of you saying, look, people wrote in in support of my position. I'm saying, yeah, they wrote in support of my position, too. What's your point? It's like evenly split.
Marco Arment 2:25
No, see that?
Casey Liss 2:26
Really not. It doesn't matter what people vote. It only matters what the reality is. And I contend that my reality is closer to the real one.
Marco Arment 2:32
Wow. Your reality is exactly that. And just hear me out for a second. Your reality is your reality. And the thing that you were saying was that your, and I think it was Merlin that hates this phrase, but I can't think of a better one. Your lived experience, I'm not here to debate, in your lived experience. Oh.
Casey Liss 2:53
written in there are dozens of you to echo there exactly they've written in and they say hey yeah the things that john was saying i also experienced that and that's why but there were also many many many people who said you're out of your darn mind i again i think it was roughly evenly split but either way the the main point is enough surely you will concede that enough people wrote in and supported my position and you could determine that it's not just a me thing
Marco Arment 3:18
Yes, I would say it's not just a you thing. I don't debate that your experience with this particular medium was probably crummy. Now, we may or may not get to later.
Casey Liss 3:27
How crummy was it? Like D tier? How crummy?
Marco Arment 3:31
Don't distract me.
Casey Liss 3:32
Because you're killing me with this because you're like, oh, this is a thing that John hates and whatever.
John Siracusa 3:36
And it's like, no, no. Listeners, rest assured, you should listen to this member special.

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