Casey Liss

If they're up for that, if your relatives are up for that, fine, but mine aren't, and honestly, I wouldn't want them included in my Apple family because that's just a complication that I don't need to deal with personally. We should really just keep those things separate.

But yeah, I help them with what they need help with, and I make sure that they're able to live their life and do their computer stuff Uh, and I think, you know, my parents are kind of like this with their belongings. They're already trying to like give away their old, you know, photo albums of us as kids, like physical photo albums of us as kids.

But yeah, I help them with what they need help with, and I make sure that they're able to live their life and do their computer stuff Uh, and I think, you know, my parents are kind of like this with their belongings. They're already trying to like give away their old, you know, photo albums of us as kids, like physical photo albums of us as kids.

Cause they don't even want to deal with those anymore. Right. Uh, so they're pretty good about dispersing their stuff. And, uh, Honestly, I would be shocked if they had more than like 10,000 photos in their libraries and how many of those are actually good is even probably even smaller. Now, I think those are valuable photos on vacations with themselves. Like we don't have those pictures.

Cause they don't even want to deal with those anymore. Right. Uh, so they're pretty good about dispersing their stuff. And, uh, Honestly, I would be shocked if they had more than like 10,000 photos in their libraries and how many of those are actually good is even probably even smaller. Now, I think those are valuable photos on vacations with themselves. Like we don't have those pictures.

Sometimes they send them to us like, oh, we're on vacation. Here we are in Florida. Look at us on this beach or whatever. Right. And presumably they have some of those, but they're just not big picture takers and they don't collect them and they don't they don't really do anything with them. So if I lose access to all of that, which I won't because I'm their legacy contact.

Sometimes they send them to us like, oh, we're on vacation. Here we are in Florida. Look at us on this beach or whatever. Right. And presumably they have some of those, but they're just not big picture takers and they don't collect them and they don't they don't really do anything with them. So if I lose access to all of that, which I won't because I'm their legacy contact.

But if I did, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. So. Yeah, I think Marco was getting at the heart of it, which is like, you've got to figure out like what these people actually need from you, not what you think they should be doing with computers. And that really clarifies your role in all of this.

But if I did, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. So. Yeah, I think Marco was getting at the heart of it, which is like, you've got to figure out like what these people actually need from you, not what you think they should be doing with computers. And that really clarifies your role in all of this.

Yeah, that's the tricky bit, and there's many apps that do this. They basically disable the keyboard until you do some really complicated thing that you're unlikely to do by accident. I don't know if the one we're putting in the show notes is the quote-unquote good one. It is just the one that I found that seemed vaguely reputable, but there's a million of these apps, right?

Yeah, that's the tricky bit, and there's many apps that do this. They basically disable the keyboard until you do some really complicated thing that you're unlikely to do by accident. I don't know if the one we're putting in the show notes is the quote-unquote good one. It is just the one that I found that seemed vaguely reputable, but there's a million of these apps, right?

But you do need one sometimes if you want to clean the keyboard without fear of accidentally doing something bad to your computer. It's not like you're worried about waking it up or the screen turning on. You're worried that you're going to accidentally hit a keyboard command that's going to delete something.

But you do need one sometimes if you want to clean the keyboard without fear of accidentally doing something bad to your computer. It's not like you're worried about waking it up or the screen turning on. You're worried that you're going to accidentally hit a keyboard command that's going to delete something.

Or you basically just want to say, I want all key presses to just go nowhere for a while because I'm going to clean my keyboard. And that's separate from the turning off thing, but that's relevant because you're like, oh, I'll solve this problem. I don't need a special app. I'll just shut down my Mac. And that used to work until many, many years ago. I forget when. They said, guess what?

Or you basically just want to say, I want all key presses to just go nowhere for a while because I'm going to clean my keyboard. And that's separate from the turning off thing, but that's relevant because you're like, oh, I'll solve this problem. I don't need a special app. I'll just shut down my Mac. And that used to work until many, many years ago. I forget when. They said, guess what?

touching anything on the surface of this laptop will make it boot from a temporary quote-unquote off state you shut down not sleep you shut down your portable macintosh computer and then what makes it turn on it used to be there was a power button but then they kind of got rid of that then it was a touch id button they said you know what it should wake up if you touch anything and now shutting your computer down to clean the keyboard very carefully uh no longer works because of this

touching anything on the surface of this laptop will make it boot from a temporary quote-unquote off state you shut down not sleep you shut down your portable macintosh computer and then what makes it turn on it used to be there was a power button but then they kind of got rid of that then it was a touch id button they said you know what it should wake up if you touch anything and now shutting your computer down to clean the keyboard very carefully uh no longer works because of this

I find it frustrating too. I believe there probably is some firmware. I was going to say open firmware, whatever the hell, whatever the hell the, the firmware that, uh, the ARM base max use to turn this off, but it's not sort of a user visible, you know, feature that you could find in a GUI somewhere as far as I know.

I find it frustrating too. I believe there probably is some firmware. I was going to say open firmware, whatever the hell, whatever the hell the, the firmware that, uh, the ARM base max use to turn this off, but it's not sort of a user visible, you know, feature that you could find in a GUI somewhere as far as I know.

So I kind of understand why Apple did this because searching for the power button on Macs has been a bit of a silly game for many years. And it seems silly to tech nerds who are like, I remember when the power button was on the keyboard and I loved it or whatever. But if you don't know where it is, like people just want to open up their laptop and if it's turned off, they just want to...