Casey Liss

In the overtime, we were saying how trying to get kids to pay attention in class has always been a challenge. And I mentioned the Walkman as a technology that was around when I was a kid and how kids had them. And if you put them on in class, you would surely be sternly lectured that you shouldn't be listening to your Walkman while you're in class. I didn't think about hats.

In the overtime, we were saying how trying to get kids to pay attention in class has always been a challenge. And I mentioned the Walkman as a technology that was around when I was a kid and how kids had them. And if you put them on in class, you would surely be sternly lectured that you shouldn't be listening to your Walkman while you're in class. I didn't think about hats.

But when I was a kid, that was also a thing that I guess I had mostly blocked out. Hats and gum chewing were things that adults were really obsessed with not happening in schools. But yeah, this is the bleacher. It looks like the bleachers in a gymnasium. The back wall behind the bleachers is, you know, that painted cinder block wall that all high schools had.

But when I was a kid, that was also a thing that I guess I had mostly blocked out. Hats and gum chewing were things that adults were really obsessed with not happening in schools. But yeah, this is the bleacher. It looks like the bleachers in a gymnasium. The back wall behind the bleachers is, you know, that painted cinder block wall that all high schools had.

And literally painted, hand-painted, like, stenciled letters on the wall that are, like, two feet high, all caps. No hats, no walk-on, because the scourge of hats will destroy our children if we let it.

And literally painted, hand-painted, like, stenciled letters on the wall that are, like, two feet high, all caps. No hats, no walk-on, because the scourge of hats will destroy our children if we let it.

Yeah, what we were talking about in that overtime was, like, what should be the iPhones that Apple sells? Like... What variety should there be? Is the lineup as it is now correct? Should they make a small phone? Should they make, you know, other kinds of weird phones?

Yeah, what we were talking about in that overtime was, like, what should be the iPhones that Apple sells? Like... What variety should there be? Is the lineup as it is now correct? Should they make a small phone? Should they make, you know, other kinds of weird phones?

And we had this whole discussion and I thought it was interesting as an aside to the iPhone SE rumors that we're about to get to that none of us even mentioned. the iPhone SE in that whole discussion because we were like, the iPhone lineup, you know, the iPhones, iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Pro, iPhone 16 Pro Max, maybe there'll be a Slim, maybe there'll be an Ultra, but not once did anyone mention that.

And we had this whole discussion and I thought it was interesting as an aside to the iPhone SE rumors that we're about to get to that none of us even mentioned. the iPhone SE in that whole discussion because we were like, the iPhone lineup, you know, the iPhones, iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Pro, iPhone 16 Pro Max, maybe there'll be a Slim, maybe there'll be an Ultra, but not once did anyone mention that.

the iPhone SE so neglected is this previous year's model with a new name or whatever, but the iPhone SE exists. Um, and somewhat related to this, uh, the, uh, the, the iPhone mini a 17 parentheses, a 17 pro, which is what Apple calls the new iPhone mini. Um, uh, is connected to the iPhone 17 rumors.

the iPhone SE so neglected is this previous year's model with a new name or whatever, but the iPhone SE exists. Um, and somewhat related to this, uh, the, uh, the, the iPhone mini a 17 parentheses, a 17 pro, which is what Apple calls the new iPhone mini. Um, uh, is connected to the iPhone 17 rumors.

These are actual rumors as opposed to just wish-casting that we talked about in the overtime where Max Tech was talking about iPhone Air, iPhone Ultra, or whatever, just like this would make a nice set of names. These, I think, are actual rumors, and the rumor being that the iPhone 17 lineup will drop the numbers and instead be iPhone parentheses A19, iPhone parentheses A19 Pro.

These are actual rumors as opposed to just wish-casting that we talked about in the overtime where Max Tech was talking about iPhone Air, iPhone Ultra, or whatever, just like this would make a nice set of names. These, I think, are actual rumors, and the rumor being that the iPhone 17 lineup will drop the numbers and instead be iPhone parentheses A19, iPhone parentheses A19 Pro.

And so the names would be iPhone, iPhone Pro, iPhone Max, iPhone, whatever they are, iPhone suffix, right? But without the number, like the number wouldn't go up. And the way we would distinguish them is the same way we distinguish, for example, iPads. And this happened ages ago. I think we even talked about it on the show when the quote unquote new iPad came out.

And so the names would be iPhone, iPhone Pro, iPhone Max, iPhone, whatever they are, iPhone suffix, right? But without the number, like the number wouldn't go up. And the way we would distinguish them is the same way we distinguish, for example, iPads. And this happened ages ago. I think we even talked about it on the show when the quote unquote new iPad came out.

Were we running ATP when that happened? I don't even know. But they dropped the numbers that said iPads aren't going to have numbers. This is just the new iPad. And we're like, how are we going to tell you had an iPad? And now this year there's another thing called iPad, but it's a different product. How are we going to distinguish them?

Were we running ATP when that happened? I don't even know. But they dropped the numbers that said iPads aren't going to have numbers. This is just the new iPad. And we're like, how are we going to tell you had an iPad? And now this year there's another thing called iPad, but it's a different product. How are we going to distinguish them?

And the answer was parentheses, you know, second generation, third generation over the same thing with Macs. All these Mac minis, you're telling me they're all called Mac mini? How do I tell which Mac mini do I have? Do they have years in them, do whatever? And the answer is that some phrase in parentheses after it that tells you what it is.

And the answer was parentheses, you know, second generation, third generation over the same thing with Macs. All these Mac minis, you're telling me they're all called Mac mini? How do I tell which Mac mini do I have? Do they have years in them, do whatever? And the answer is that some phrase in parentheses after it that tells you what it is.