Casey Liss

Maybe some modern brand that nobody has that much of an opinion about, like Polestar.

That could be a Polestar logo, and everybody would be like, okay.

Well, but I mean, honestly, I think the more Apple-like design is like what Tesla and Rivian do, where they try to minimize physical controls and have everything on a small number of screens.

I mean, you can certainly see the resemblance, but you can also see like, OK, there's a lot of physical controls.

They're done.

They look beautiful, but they also the energy, the style, the like the like that kind of like, you know, sex appeal of a high end sports car.

That's not this.

this is nice german design done well by johnny ive like that's that's what that looks like it does not look like italian sports car so i i agree john like i even though i don't care about ferrari lamborghini and even though there are so many references to old ferraris like that's the thing about this like it's like how can you say it doesn't look like a ferrari like that steering wheel is directly ripped out of an old ferrari and those air vents and this and that and like

Again, I think Dieter Rams, obviously a huge influence.

I think also one thing I didn't think of earlier was Leica cameras.

This looks a lot like Leica style.

This is nicer than most interiors I've ever seen.

Again, it doesn't scream Ferrari to me, but it does look really nice.

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