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Casey Newton

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

Do you think it would look a lot like the Instagram that we have today?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

Or do you think it would look a lot different?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I bet it'd be the latter, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I bet it would look really, really different.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And I think that there is a world where, we don't live in this world, but I think that there's another world where the executives at Instagram did do that and said, you know what?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

We're actually gonna put out that version of Instagram for teens.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And look, it's mostly educational content.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

It's actually not personalized to your teen at all.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

We've disabled all the communication features.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

You can only use it during daylight hours.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

You can imagine a million things that would probably just make this a safe product.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

So on some level, yes, it's tricky to figure out, oh, what would the right version of Instagram be that would not get Meta into trouble?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

On the other hand, I think you actually could kind of sketch it out.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

So my curiosity is to what extent are they going to try to go down that road?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

Because I'm sure they're going to be desperate not to be sued by every teenager in America.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And to what extent are they just going to, you know, I don't know, try something shady and underhanded that I haven't thought of yet.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

No.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I mean, my sort of nihilistic view on this is ultimately what solves the meta problem is that they just get out-competed by another company that maybe is better in certain dimensions.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

But yeah, I don't think the change is going to come from within from these guys because all they care about is just winning.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And for them, winning looks like maximum time engaged.