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Casey Newton

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And it's really scary.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And you're asking us to sacrifice like maybe even our lives to like speak out in favor of these principles.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

That's like kind of a BS.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

So all of that is fair.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And yet, fast forward to almost a year later now, I think the question still stands.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

What happened when these people stopped speaking out was they just gave free reign to the oligarchs to run these platforms as they see fit.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

That's a really scary thing to me is that trust and safety really is no longer meaningful at any of these platforms except as a compliance function to keep them in line with various regulations.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And the result is now you just have a bunch of oligarchs trading favors over Signal.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I mean, recent history would suggest that no, there's not really an off ramp.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

Because again, all the incentives are for these companies to get you to look at their app for as long as they can get you to do that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

And so until the pain of those incentives is worse than the benefits of the revenue that brings in and what it does to their stock price, I don't see a big change coming.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I think it's too early to tell.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I think that some of the transparency requirements that they've implemented have been good.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

It's like there's now some kind of database that you can go to where they have to essentially file a lot of the moderation decisions that you've made.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

That's accessible to the public.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I think these are good things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I think what we haven't seen yet is consensus on the specific problem we're trying to solve and the exact right mechanisms for solving it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

Right.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

I think it's like and again, because because it gets so mixed up in these speech issues.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?

So I think we need to continue to try to like narrow in on like what is the exact problem we're trying to solve.