Casey Newton
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And then from there, try to build some consensus around like, OK, what can we really say in an empirical way?
Like this is what is going to protect the teens from like having horrible outcomes.
I think we got to keep driving at those things or otherwise we're just going to continue to spin our wheels.
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Yeah.
So he sent that over and said, I hope this suffices.
His photo and name had been blacked out.
But I thought, well, this is at least a starting point.
I asked then if there was any document that he might have that would speak to his actual allegations.
And while he complained that that might put him at additional risk, he said he would think about it.
And about a day later, he messaged me again on Signal and said, I have something for you.
And it was an 18-page document that is probably the craziest thing a source has ever shared with me.
Well, one was that as I read through it, it seemed to verify not just a handful of allegations, but essentially every single thing in the post.
It was presented as a kind of research paper that had been done by a behavioral economics group inside the company, which he was saying that this was coming from Uber.
And it said that, oh, yeah, you know, here's how we are calculating the desperation score.