Casey Zeman

I had no money when I started the company.

It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs.

Sure.

Well, we've been in the space for a little bit.

You know, at first we started off as what's known as an automated webinar platform where we were just a sort of a webinar marketing tool that would stream video in real time with the experience of webinars.

But then we knew we wanted to grow into something more.

So we added the ability to do live streaming, Zoom quality style live stream video.

It

is a difficult space in the sense that, you know, there's a lot of webinar platforms out there.

What we're trying to do right now is just carve our sort of, you know, sort of draw our line in the sand, carve what we are and get real clear on that, because we are a webinar marketing tool.

We do live, we do automated.

But I think there is, you know, we're hitting a

We're hitting some friction because there's so many platforms out there that we're doing some really cool stuff coming in the new year as we as we grow into a kind of a different beast, if you will, you know, than just a webinar platform.

It's a, it's pure SaaS company.

We do have, we have coaching as well, um, as, and then we do service, but most of it is, it's, it's basically all SaaS.

Average customer per month is we get the middle package.

We're at about a hundred bucks a month.

Oh, well, okay.

I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a nasty, you know, like story, but like not nasty, but it's like 2000, I think 2013, we built out a webinar plugin that was for WordPress and it was only automated webinars.

So that's basically how we started off.