Cate

But then it does make – but then it does have people looking at us like, oh my gosh, you're breaking boundaries. You're disrespecting, which I understand because nobody knows the full scope of things. But I'm telling you.

But then it does make – but then it does have people looking at us like, oh my gosh, you're breaking boundaries. You're disrespecting, which I understand because nobody knows the full scope of things. But I'm telling you.

But then it does make – but then it does have people looking at us like, oh my gosh, you're breaking boundaries. You're disrespecting, which I understand because nobody knows the full scope of things. But I'm telling you.

No, this whole journey – and it's not like they get the money and they put it in account for Carly. No, they're using it to – pay for their flights, pay for their hotel, all that stuff, which I get. But when we had that conversation with them on the phone, I said, I wish you would have told me. I said, I would have helped you.

No, this whole journey – and it's not like they get the money and they put it in account for Carly. No, they're using it to – pay for their flights, pay for their hotel, all that stuff, which I get. But when we had that conversation with them on the phone, I said, I wish you would have told me. I said, I would have helped you.

No, this whole journey – and it's not like they get the money and they put it in account for Carly. No, they're using it to – pay for their flights, pay for their hotel, all that stuff, which I get. But when we had that conversation with them on the phone, I said, I wish you would have told me. I said, I would have helped you.

I could help you and say, you ain't getting my picture either that I posted on Instagram unless you help them with their travel.

I could help you and say, you ain't getting my picture either that I posted on Instagram unless you help them with their travel.

I could help you and say, you ain't getting my picture either that I posted on Instagram unless you help them with their travel.

Like I get that. But the way that they would just always like, if it benefited them, they were going to do it.

Like I get that. But the way that they would just always like, if it benefited them, they were going to do it.

Like I get that. But the way that they would just always like, if it benefited them, they were going to do it.

Yeah, we don't have anything to lose. And also just the fact of the matter that I truly in my heart of heart do not believe that it's Carly that wants this.

Yeah, we don't have anything to lose. And also just the fact of the matter that I truly in my heart of heart do not believe that it's Carly that wants this.

Yeah, we don't have anything to lose. And also just the fact of the matter that I truly in my heart of heart do not believe that it's Carly that wants this.

I think it is fear-based. I think that it is... I think it's parental insecurity. Yes. I think there's some, like, infertility trauma, because that's hard.

I think it is fear-based. I think that it is... I think it's parental insecurity. Yes. I think there's some, like, infertility trauma, because that's hard.

I think it is fear-based. I think that it is... I think it's parental insecurity. Yes. I think there's some, like, infertility trauma, because that's hard.

You know? Not being able to have your own shot. You know? Like, that's hard.

You know? Not being able to have your own shot. You know? Like, that's hard.