Catherine Paiz
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211 appearances
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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To me, it's like, why lie about that? But now I know you can lie about a lot of things that aren't true. So I'm like, okay, well... Because the thing is that I knew that writing this book, there would be some kind of retaliation or some things that are said. I knew that something would come from this, obviously, because I wrote a book. I didn't know what magnitude. That I wasn't aware of.
But it's interesting because I saw it and I thought, this is not... me you know like this is i'm past that like i truly feel like it was a test truly it's like you austin you could have handled that differently you know you could have said I saw, I saw, see, she has a book out, you know, and one of the things he said is I didn't tell him about the book.
The thing is, when you go through a divorce, you don't really tell someone what you're doing. You know what I mean? And I had been promoting the book for actually for two years. I've been talking about it. So he had seen it. Um, I think if I would have mentioned the book to him privately, he may have want to try to stop me from doing it.
So it was just something I didn't, I mean, it was doing me, you know? Um, but yeah, I think that, um,
him he could have handled it differently he could have said you know i just saw that katherine you're my ex-wife she has a book out and he could have said something along the lines of you know although i don't totally agree with what she said you know there's i guess there's always different sides of the story and i wish her well and i'm not proud of the things i did but we've both moved on and what
Totally.
Well, the crazy thing is it did happen. And that's where I found out all the lies. So like that moment was a significant moment in my life. So, of course, I'm going to talk about it if that was life-changing for me. Because I was pregnant when all of these things were going on. And I got confirmation from one of his family members saying, I told him not to bring that girl.
And I'm thinking, like, what? You knew, too? Like, I'm thinking, like, oh, my gosh. Like, I'm just being blindsided over here. Like, I had no idea. Like, truly. Like, yeah, I've been seeing the rumors and the narratives. But, oh, my gosh.
So sex intimacy is very, very sacred to me, like more today than it has ever been. When I found out that there was cheating, I checked out and I said, my body is a temple and I refuse to allow anybody to come near my temple if he cannot be honest and truthful and loyal. And it was like, I'm checked out. And it is true. And actually, I wrote it in the book. I put four years. It was four years.
It was actually more like five years, if you think about it, because... Five years of what? Of not being intimate with him. Okay. Because... Just to be completely transparent and honest, because I do feel like a lot of women and men can relate to this. But...
Um, I was going through a lot of postpartum, you know, your body changes, you know, you're breastfeeding and you're taking care of multiple children. And so, um, we, um, we had my daughter and then we had, you know, I was pregnant that whole year and I, you know, I was the cheating allegations, all the things. And I thought, you know, I don't know. And then I got pregnant with my son.
And I'm thinking like, maybe we can make this work, you know, maybe this is not what it all seems to be. And, you know, we had just moved into our new house and we're like, you know, maybe, maybe we can have the family that we're always meant to have, you know, the family that we're portrayed to the world, you know, maybe we can really be that.
And I got pregnant and then that was, and then I found out he was cheating on me and that was it. That was a never, never, ever, ever like.
Never again.
And did he pursue you at all? Like, did he try? No. And that's how I knew that there was cheating going on. Right. Yeah. And you know what? Now I know how that's not normal. Mm-hmm. At the time, I thought...
you know, we're going through a lot, you know, there's a lot of bad things happening around us, you know, we have children, you know, and we're overworked and we're tired and we're stressed and we are anxious and all these things. And now I think back, I'm like, even when I would like, we would kiss or it just, it was a disconnection. And I thought, this isn't my husband. Like,
Yeah. Yeah. I think that that's what part of, you know, our love and our bond. It's like, we are so deeply connected, like, in all ways. And... Yeah, I'm a huge part of this problem, though. It's like, I take it full accountability on being in a relationship with someone and not also pursuing intimacy because...
Although I was disgusted and I didn't want like to be intimate, I didn't have these very serious conversations like, hey, maybe we should go see a therapist. Like maybe we should do couples therapy. Maybe like this is a normal going like another year without being physically intimate. Intimate. It is such an important part of a marriage and a relationship.
It was a cheating. It was nothing else. Could handle anything.
It's really hurtful because... It's just such a strange thing to say. For years in my spiritual journey, everyone in my circle and everyone knows how deeply connected I am to Christ and to Mother Mary. More than ever today, I feel like I can connect to her always. And I think that's just his way to just throwing jobs, just trying to make me look crazy, try to paint a picture of, she's crazy.
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