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Catherine Rampell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
570 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

That may not be super comforting if you are among the 4.6%, obviously.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

But it's rising.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And probably the reason why it's rising, the reason why we've had some job losses, and we can get into whether we should even take those numbers at face value.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

They're probably overstating the health of the economy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Part of the reason why all of that's happening is that we have some pretty destructive economic policies that are weighing on the economy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So Fed Chair Jerome Powell last week said at his press conference that the Federal Reserve staff think these numbers are probably overstating the number of jobs we're adding each month by about 60,000.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So, what does that mean?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

That means that if we had last month, as the number showed, about 60,000 jobs added, probably if you adjust it by what they think the error is, maybe we had no jobs added.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And in previous months when we had slight job losses, they might have been much bigger job losses.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

To be clear, this is not an accusation that the Trump administration is cooking the books.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Rather, this is about some difficulties in measurement around the time that an economy might be turning.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Because based on the way that the surveys are administered, companies that are closing are no longer responding to surveys.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So maybe you're only getting responses from companies that are still doing okay.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And so if you were actually to adjust the data a little bit more,

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

In retrospect, they will do this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

They will do revisions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

If you were able to adjust the data accounting for all this stuff, the economy would probably look a little bit worse.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

It's just it's a methodological challenge.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

It's again, it's not about malfeasance.