Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books
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What are the implications of Trump's actions on economic statistics?
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Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We have got a doubleheader today. I told you we'd get serious.
How is the Trump administration impacting statistical agencies?
I've been wanting to do an episode focused on Palantir for a while now and was happy to have a chance to talk to Mike Steinberger, who's got a new book about Palantir and their CEO, Alex Karp. So we got that in segment two. Also wanted to throw out to you, I got this flag to me. I'm not going to be there. I'm in New Orleans. I know there will not be actually any Bulwark people there, but Bulwark fans are doing a meetup in St. Paul tonight. The Dual Citizen Brewery in the Twin Cities. So go, if you're listening. Go meet some other people.
What are the concerns surrounding immigration policies and their effects?
I thought I'd help the industrious Bulwark listeners who are trying to have revelry and have gatherings this holiday season. Encourage anybody else in the Twin Cities to go check it out. But first up... We've got my colleague. She's the economics editor at The Bulwark. She writes the newsletter Receipts, which is published on Thursday evenings. She also co-hosts MS Now's The Weekend Primetime. It's Catherine Rampell. Welcome back to the show. How are you doing, girl?
How does the economic landscape look with rising tariffs?
Doing well. Doing well. As well as when can in these trying times. That's true.
We're in the holiday season. We don't need to caveat. Things are good. Personally, I mean, you know, the world's. is full of torment always. True.
What is the relationship between Palantir and surveillance practices?
Maybe it's feeling a little more acute right now. It's certainly feeling a little more acute in the economy. How about that transition? I wanted to talk to you about we had some delayed jobs numbers that came out because of the government shutdown and the fact that the president was considering a scheme to cook the books that isn't going well so far. And the numbers that we saw yesterday revealed an unemployment rate that's at a four-year high. even though I should say it's pretty low, you know, compared to like past really bad recessions and just otherwise a lot of softness in the economic numbers. What did you see? What caught your eye in particular?
Yeah. So this was, as you said, a delayed report, not,
How is Alex Karp's perspective on governance and technology evolving?
Everybody's kind of looking around to figure out what's going on in this economy because it is very confusing. Everybody, specifically including the people at the Federal Reserve who have to actually act upon these data beyond the fact that the unemployment rate went up. We now have measures suggesting that in three of the past six months, we actually lost jobs.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the implications of Trump's actions on economic statistics?
0:00–0:52
2
How are job losses affecting the economy under current policies?
0:52–1:33
3
What role does Palantir play in the government's data handling?
1:33–2:18
4
How is the Trump administration impacting statistical agencies?
2:18–2:53
5
What are the concerns surrounding immigration policies and their effects?
2:53–3:20
6
How does the economic landscape look with rising tariffs?
3:20–3:36
7
What is the relationship between Palantir and surveillance practices?
3:36–4:16
8
How is Alex Karp's perspective on governance and technology evolving?
4:16–1:11:00
Speakers
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