CeCe Lyra

Maybe they don't feel as appreciated.

I also really enjoyed the representation of an open gay marriage because I think a lot of times, a lot of people, when they write gay stories, are more sort of...

I don't know.

It's like they don't want to freak out straight people.

So they make it more like straight people relationships.

And I love that this was, it showed like a really realistic portrayal of two men who'd been together for this long.

Yeah.

So I don't know about you, but I never really know what my books are about until I've written them.

And then generally other people will tell me what my books are about.

But it seems like you are in perfect control with both hands on the wheel when it comes to knowing exactly what you're wanting to explore, whether it's themes, whether it's certain topics.

I mean, does that come through in the rewrites, figuring all that out?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, yeah, you make it look flawless.

I needed to ask.

So, okay, so you're a brilliant comedic writer who's won awards for writing comedy.

And now you give us a character, Jesse, who teaches comedic writing.

But no, besides the psyche of the character, it read like a masterclass in writing comedy.

Like I was highlighting bits and going, oh, my God, I never thought about that in terms of writing comedy before.

It feels like you've taken everything you know from writing all of these books and you have Jesse teaching his students this.