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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

You're on a shot clock, and you only have, and it's 30 minutes aside, and then the justices will ask questions.

4205.772 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So this was Monsanto and Roundup, right?

4209.918 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So what was the law that was being debated?

4211.901 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

For years, the regulatory body, the EPA, sets the label for pesticides.

4214.145 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Does this cause cancer or not?

4220.254 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

What are the warnings?

4221.716 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

This can be damaging for birth defects, pregnancy, all the things that we're all used to seeing on labels when you buy a product, a chemical product.

4222.437 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And the EPA and their regulatory authority determined that Roundup does not cause cancer.

4229.716 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

When you sell a pesticide, you first have to register it with the EPA, get it approved, and then the EPA gives you a label.

4235.611 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And the label is written by the EPA.

4241.385 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

It says exactly what you're supposed to say.

4243.129 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And in this case, it said all this stuff doesn't say cancer because they determined it does not cause cancer.

4244.954 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And I'm not going to debate whether or not it causes cancer, but that's the case that was made is that the EPA is the regulatory body under a federal act called FIFRA, Fungicide, Insecticide, or Denticide Act.

4250.585 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And that's where the EPA is given the regulatory authority to put the label on these products.

4261.907 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And all of the cases that have been lost have been state failure to warn cases.

4267.448 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

To date, Bayer, which now owns Monsanto, has paid out $10 billion in these lawsuits, and they have reserved $10 billion on their balance sheet, and they have 90,000 cases still outstanding in the courts.

4273.378 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

90,000.

4284.436 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And so this one case got kind of appealed up to the Supreme Court.

4285.538 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Last year, the White House solicitor general, and if the solicitor general steps up and asks the Supreme Court to take a case, it's more likely the case gets taken.

4289.706 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So the White House said, please take this case.

4297.66 View full episode β†’