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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

We need to have federal preemption, meaning the federal government has the right to set the label.

4299.984 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Because all of the cases that have been lost and that are being adjudicated are in state courts where the state has a law, like in California, called a failure to warn law, which means if a manufacturer knows that a product carries a risk, you have to warn the consumer.

4305.434 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And so the lawyers have been arguing that Monsanto or Bayer knew that this product caused cancer and didn't warn the consumer.

4320.756 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And they've been winning cases, they've been losing cases, but they've won enough cases that this has now become a multi-deca-billion-dollar problem.

4328.126 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And so the argument is that the EPA says it doesn't cause cancer and they have federal preemption.

4335.252 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So the EPA has the right to determine.

4340.31 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So that's the one argument.

4342.658 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

But then when the other attorney came up, this guy was like literally like watching LeBron James.

4344.5 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And so going in, we were like, oh, 6-3, Bayard's gonna win.

4349.586 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And then the other guy comes up and he was like, well, hey, you guys overturned the Chevron Doctrine last year.

4352.089 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

You guys remember that case?

4357.736 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Where basically when the Chevron Doctrine got overturned, it basically said that no longer does the federal agency get to decide.

4359.198 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

It has to be a direct reading of the law.

4366.807 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So now, so he's saying like, the states should have a right to read the law themselves.

4368.85 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

They shouldn't have to just defer to the EPA.

4376.419 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And that's what this will come down to.

4379.242 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So at the end of it, we were like, oh my God, this could be a 50-50 coin flip, 5-4 either way.

4380.483 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And going into it, we were kind of like trying to say, hey, maybe this could be 6-3.

4385.209 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So honestly, the whole experience was incredible.

4388.693 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

The case is interesting.

4390.895 View full episode β†’