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And I also said that as part of that, they could give Sam Altman a CEO option grant and they should also give Elon some fair compensation for being the seed investor who put in the first $50 million and co-founder. And what you're seeing is, well, they're kind of doing that. They're opening up the books. They're straightening out the corporate structure.
They're giving Sam his option grant, but they didn't do anything for Elon. And I'm not saying this as Elon's friend. I'm just saying that it's not really fair to basically go fix the original situation. You're making it into a for-profit. You're giving everyone shares, but the guy who puts in the original seed capital doesn't get anything. That's ridiculous.
They're giving Sam his option grant, but they didn't do anything for Elon. And I'm not saying this as Elon's friend. I'm just saying that it's not really fair to basically go fix the original situation. You're making it into a for-profit. You're giving everyone shares, but the guy who puts in the original seed capital doesn't get anything. That's ridiculous.
And what they're basically saying to Elon is, if you don't like it, just sue us. I mean, that's basically what they're doing. And I said that they should go clean this up, but they should make it right with everybody. So how do you not make it right with Elon? I haven't talked to him about this, but he reacted on X saying this is really wrong. It appeared to be a surprise to him.
And what they're basically saying to Elon is, if you don't like it, just sue us. I mean, that's basically what they're doing. And I said that they should go clean this up, but they should make it right with everybody. So how do you not make it right with Elon? I haven't talked to him about this, but he reacted on X saying this is really wrong. It appeared to be a surprise to him.
I doubt he knew this was coming. So the company apparently made no effort to make things right with him. And I think that that is a bit ridiculous.
I doubt he knew this was coming. So the company apparently made no effort to make things right with him. And I think that that is a bit ridiculous.
If you're gonna clean this up, if you're gonna change the original purpose of this organization to being a standard for-profit company where the CEO who previously said he wasn't gonna get any compensation is now getting $10 billion of compensation, how do you do that and then not clean it up for the co-founder who put in the first $50 million? That doesn't make sense to me.
If you're gonna clean this up, if you're gonna change the original purpose of this organization to being a standard for-profit company where the CEO who previously said he wasn't gonna get any compensation is now getting $10 billion of compensation, how do you do that and then not clean it up for the co-founder who put in the first $50 million? That doesn't make sense to me.
And when Reid was on our pod, he said, well, Elon's rich enough. Well, that's not a principled excuse. I mean, does Vinod ever act that way? Does Reid ever act that way? Do they ever say, well, you know, you don't need to do what's fair for me because I'm already rich? That's not a principled answer.
And when Reid was on our pod, he said, well, Elon's rich enough. Well, that's not a principled excuse. I mean, does Vinod ever act that way? Does Reid ever act that way? Do they ever say, well, you know, you don't need to do what's fair for me because I'm already rich? That's not a principled answer.
Reid made that argument, and I think it's the best argument the company has. But let's think about that argument. Maybe Elon was busy that week. Maybe Elon already felt like he had put all the money that he had allocated for something like this into it because he put in a $50 million check, whereas Reid put in $10 million. We don't know what Elon was thinking at that time.
Reid made that argument, and I think it's the best argument the company has. But let's think about that argument. Maybe Elon was busy that week. Maybe Elon already felt like he had put all the money that he had allocated for something like this into it because he put in a $50 million check, whereas Reid put in $10 million. We don't know what Elon was thinking at that time.
Maybe there was a crisis at Tesla and he was just really busy. The point is Elon shouldn't have been obligated to put in more money into this venture. The fact of the matter is they're refactoring the whole venture. Elon had an expectation when he put in the $50 million that this would be a nonprofit and stay a nonprofit. And they're changing that.
Maybe there was a crisis at Tesla and he was just really busy. The point is Elon shouldn't have been obligated to put in more money into this venture. The fact of the matter is they're refactoring the whole venture. Elon had an expectation when he put in the $50 million that this would be a nonprofit and stay a nonprofit. And they're changing that.
And if they change it, they have to make things right with him. It doesn't really matter whether he had a subsequent opportunity to invest. He wasn't obligated to make that investment. What he had an expectation of is that his $50 million would be used for a philanthropic purpose, and clearly it has not been.
And if they change it, they have to make things right with him. It doesn't really matter whether he had a subsequent opportunity to invest. He wasn't obligated to make that investment. What he had an expectation of is that his $50 million would be used for a philanthropic purpose, and clearly it has not been.
I think it does look pretty impressive. I mean, you can wear these Meta Orion glasses around And look like a human. I mean, you might look like Eugene Levy, but you'll still look like a semi-normal person. Whereas you can't wear the Apple Vision Pro. I mean, you can't wear that around.
I think it does look pretty impressive. I mean, you can wear these Meta Orion glasses around And look like a human. I mean, you might look like Eugene Levy, but you'll still look like a semi-normal person. Whereas you can't wear the Apple Vision Pro. I mean, you can't wear that around.
I mean, it seems like a major advancement, certainly compared to Apple Vision Pro. I mean, you don't hear about the Apple Vision Pros anymore at all. I mean, those things came and went. It's pretty funny. It seems to me that Meta is executing extremely well. I mean, you had the very successful cost cutting, which Wall Street liked.