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Now you can, you can say that you don't believe those stories or whatever, but those reports were real, but David Muir fact-checked in real time saying that Trump was wrong. And there was like this effort to kind of gaslight and make him sound crazy during the debate when there are in fact sources for what he was saying.

And it might've thrown him off a little bit. I noticed like, it was like, he, I agree. They going into it, I think they need to negotiate in the future. You know how they're negotiating the microphones on or off, audience on or off. I think they should negotiate. Are we fact-checking in real time or are we not fact-checking? And who's doing that fact-checking?

And it might've thrown him off a little bit. I noticed like, it was like, he, I agree. They going into it, I think they need to negotiate in the future. You know how they're negotiating the microphones on or off, audience on or off. I think they should negotiate. Are we fact-checking in real time or are we not fact-checking? And who's doing that fact-checking?

Well, totally. And they only fact-check one candidate. For example, when Kamala Harris repeated numerous hoaxes like the Very Fine People hoax, the Bloodbath hoax, the Suckers and Losers hoax. I mean, these are things that were already addressed in the last debate. And You know, even left-wing sites like Snopes have said the whole verified people thing is totally made up.

Well, totally. And they only fact-check one candidate. For example, when Kamala Harris repeated numerous hoaxes like the Very Fine People hoax, the Bloodbath hoax, the Suckers and Losers hoax. I mean, these are things that were already addressed in the last debate. And You know, even left-wing sites like Snopes have said the whole verified people thing is totally made up.

Yes, for people who don't know that, there's been selective edits. I mean, there's been selective edits forever, but that one is particularly egregious.

Yes, for people who don't know that, there's been selective edits. I mean, there's been selective edits forever, but that one is particularly egregious.

It's really egregious. The bloodbath one is really egregious, too.

It's really egregious. The bloodbath one is really egregious, too.

Yeah, because he was talking about the bloodbath and EVs. Yeah, and just make it into a January 6th extension, which it's not.

Yeah, because he was talking about the bloodbath and EVs. Yeah, and just make it into a January 6th extension, which it's not.

Right, so she was able to say these things and never got fact-checked once, which meant she never got knocked out of her preparation.

Right, so she was able to say these things and never got fact-checked once, which meant she never got knocked out of her preparation.

And let's also be honest, like Trump is hyperbolic. So if you are going to say, you know, oh, we're going to fact check Trump, like there's a lot of material there. And he just he's a hyperbolic guy. That's kind of his shtick, right? I mean.

And let's also be honest, like Trump is hyperbolic. So if you are going to say, you know, oh, we're going to fact check Trump, like there's a lot of material there. And he just he's a hyperbolic guy. That's kind of his shtick, right? I mean.

But here's the thing, is that in the wake of that debate, look, I think a lot of people scoring the debate on technical debater's points would award her the win for that night. Clearly she won, yeah. I don't deny that. However, what I think has been surprising is that in the wake of the debate, you're seeing her support sort of return more to its previous level.

But here's the thing, is that in the wake of that debate, look, I think a lot of people scoring the debate on technical debater's points would award her the win for that night. Clearly she won, yeah. I don't deny that. However, what I think has been surprising is that in the wake of the debate, you're seeing her support sort of return more to its previous level.

And so what I'm saying is the effect of that's wearing off. And I think one of the reasons why that's wearing off is because Trump still has the killer issues in this election. He's got the border, and he's got inflation and the economy. And Harris may have done well, again, on debaters' points, but what substantive answer did she give in that debate, except to say, I'm not Joe Biden, which...

And so what I'm saying is the effect of that's wearing off. And I think one of the reasons why that's wearing off is because Trump still has the killer issues in this election. He's got the border, and he's got inflation and the economy. And Harris may have done well, again, on debaters' points, but what substantive answer did she give in that debate, except to say, I'm not Joe Biden, which...

is, I guess, true. However, what you're basically saying is you won't defend your own administration's record. You are the incumbent. You're not the change candidate. And you're saying that people should vote for you because you're not Joe Biden. Well, what is it about Joe Biden's record that, what is it about Joe Biden's policies that you don't agree with?