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is, I guess, true. However, what you're basically saying is you won't defend your own administration's record. You are the incumbent. You're not the change candidate. And you're saying that people should vote for you because you're not Joe Biden. Well, what is it about Joe Biden's record that, what is it about Joe Biden's policies that you don't agree with?

I mean, after all, you cast the tie-breaking vote for the Inflation Reduction Act. You cast it for the $2 trillion American Rescue Plan that set off the inflation. So the debate moderators never asked Harris, well, what is it about you that is different than Joe Biden on a policy level, other than the fact that you're different people?

I mean, after all, you cast the tie-breaking vote for the Inflation Reduction Act. You cast it for the $2 trillion American Rescue Plan that set off the inflation. So the debate moderators never asked Harris, well, what is it about you that is different than Joe Biden on a policy level, other than the fact that you're different people?

Apparently she's pro-gun. I thought that was like a great moment for her. Objectively, I think, and I've said this forever here on this show, putting our feelings aside about the candidates, I think whoever comes across as the most normal or the most moderate is going to win. And I think she's done a great job of like... convincing those moderates that she's not crazy and he is.

Apparently she's pro-gun. I thought that was like a great moment for her. Objectively, I think, and I've said this forever here on this show, putting our feelings aside about the candidates, I think whoever comes across as the most normal or the most moderate is going to win. And I think she's done a great job of like... convincing those moderates that she's not crazy and he is.

What are your thoughts on that? Because people looked at this very podcast and they've said to me, my God, that's the Trump I want to vote for, that Trump 2.0, the all-in Trump. And then people are like, ah, he's going back to the insult comic Trump, but I don't want the chaos. What are your thoughts on moderates specifically in the swing states and this sort of strategy.

What are your thoughts on that? Because people looked at this very podcast and they've said to me, my God, that's the Trump I want to vote for, that Trump 2.0, the all-in Trump. And then people are like, ah, he's going back to the insult comic Trump, but I don't want the chaos. What are your thoughts on moderates specifically in the swing states and this sort of strategy.

Let's talk about the Teamsters. So Biden, when he was still in the race, was plus eight among the Teamsters rank and file. And now that Harris is the candidate, Trump is up something like plus 26 with the Teamsters. Yeah.

Let's talk about the Teamsters. So Biden, when he was still in the race, was plus eight among the Teamsters rank and file. And now that Harris is the candidate, Trump is up something like plus 26 with the Teamsters. Yeah.

Why is that? Because she's, isn't she pro-Union as well? He was Union Joe. So, I mean, it was like in the name. I understand why they loved him.

Why is that? Because she's, isn't she pro-Union as well? He was Union Joe. So, I mean, it was like in the name. I understand why they loved him.

There's something about her policies and I think her – look, I think within the Democratic Party – You think it's her personality. I think it's partly personality, but I also think it's policies and cultural issues. So within the Democratic Party, there's always been two tracks. There's the beer track and there's the wine track. And so, you know, Bill Clinton was classic beer track guy, right?

There's something about her policies and I think her – look, I think within the Democratic Party – You think it's her personality. I think it's partly personality, but I also think it's policies and cultural issues. So within the Democratic Party, there's always been two tracks. There's the beer track and there's the wine track. And so, you know, Bill Clinton was classic beer track guy, right?

Beer summit with Obama. Yeah. Right. And I think Joe Biden was was beer track. Then there's kind of the wine track, which is the more it's the part of the party that cares about these boutique cultural issues, starting with DEI and equity and trans and things like that.

Beer summit with Obama. Yeah. Right. And I think Joe Biden was was beer track. Then there's kind of the wine track, which is the more it's the part of the party that cares about these boutique cultural issues, starting with DEI and equity and trans and things like that.

Limousine liberals is what they used to be called. But I like yours, wine liberals or the woke wine liberals.

Limousine liberals is what they used to be called. But I like yours, wine liberals or the woke wine liberals.

Basically, the entire California Democratic Party is very wine track. I mean, Gavin is very wine track. Kamala Harris is very wine track. You can understand why a blue collar worker, it doesn't appeal to that. They want more of that lunch pail traditional Democrat. But that Democratic Party doesn't really exist anymore. I mean, the Democratic Party is

Basically, the entire California Democratic Party is very wine track. I mean, Gavin is very wine track. Kamala Harris is very wine track. You can understand why a blue collar worker, it doesn't appeal to that. They want more of that lunch pail traditional Democrat. But that Democratic Party doesn't really exist anymore. I mean, the Democratic Party is

has evolved to be the party of the professional class, whereas the Republicans are more the party of the working class. And you're now starting to see it. I think Biden was the Democrats' last vestige of this working class party. He really worked at being appealing to those voters, you know, the whole Scranton Joe image. Yeah, Union Joe. Yeah, exactly.