Chanler

Yeah.

And you and I, we've sat with all the evidence, and there have been moments where we felt more convinced.

Mm-hmm.

And...

less convinced right and so I think what's interesting about this judgment is that we really like are seeing the judge look at what what true evidence is in front of him and honestly hold it up to the law and you and I are not necessarily experts in the law so we can kind of go we were kind of going off of vibes but

like we know we were also reading the court documents of course but but we weren't looking at like what constitutes actual sexual harassment you know under California state law that is correct that's what we were doing and that this finally has happened now that is the sword we kind of fell on though because when we read Jenny Slate's deposition and we determined that she felt she was very much um you know she felt that Justin Baldoni was creepy and did make weird remarks and it was not the situation where this whole thing had been fabricated

We did give Blake Lively's case a lot more credence.

Yeah.

Because we didn't want to just be completely one-sided.

Right.

And I actually think if you read this summary judgment, judge, is it Lehman or Lyman?

I think.

Judge Lehman comes to the same conclusion.

If you read it, he absolutely says that in Blake Lively's mind, it is 100% possible and most likely that she did feel that she was sexually harassed.

Unfortunately for her, the facts of the case don't actually ladder up.

to the severity necessary to prove sexual harassment.

Right.

There's a threshold the evidence has to meet, and it did not meet that threshold.

Whether or not she believes it was sexual harassment, it didn't meet the law threshold.

And I think what we're going to get into and what we should just talk about now is why it didn't meet that threshold.