Chantel Hebert

Okay.

And don't forget Montreal's women's team winning that.

That's right.

Against Ottawa.

Yeah, there's been a lot of celebration of that too.

I think anybody who aspires to be prime minister does not have an option.

There is no box A, box B. I'm going to defend the Federation or I'm going to say, well, gee, you know, maybe you guys should have a referendum to see if you want to leave the Federation.

That's...

And I'm guessing up to a point, the same applies to members of the caucus who are expected to see themselves as a government in waiting.

Do you want to showcase a government in waiting that is made up of people who are wavering on whether you should break up the constitutional order and the federation?

That being said...

I think there is also party survival elements in play here.

And I'll just draw an example.

The federal liberals for a long time, their ground zero of the federal liberals was really Quebec.

Quebec held for the Liberals under Pierre Trudeau even when Joe Clark was winning elsewhere.

And Quebec kept and went a long way to return Pierre Trudeau to power.

When did the federal Liberals start to fracture?

When the Parti Québécois came on the scene and referendum politics came in play.

It is in Mr. Poiliev's interest to shut down that second option on the question, do you want a referendum on the referendum?

Because at that point, it becomes a serious bid to get to a question about leaving the country.