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Charles Homans

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The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

The special housing unit is a sort of solitary confinement wing of the MCC.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

It is a very isolated place.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

The inmates are stuck in their cells 23 hours a day.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

And it's used to house people for a number of reasons.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

But this includes some of the people accused of very, very serious crimes and violent crimes.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

So Epstein is led into his new cell and he's introduced to his cellmate, who's this guy named Nicholas Tartaglione.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

And the door closes behind him.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

Epstein asks Tartaglione what he's in for.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

And Tartaglione replies, multiple homicides.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

And at this point, Epstein turns around and starts banging on the door and demands to be let out of the cell.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

Exactly.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

But the fact that Epstein was put with Tartaglione reflects this sort of counterintuitive prison warden logic, which is that people who have been accused of very serious crimes

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

violent crimes on the outside while they're awaiting trial are actually very unlikely to commit further violent crimes.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

But somebody like Tartaglione, who's facing the death penalty at this point, has every incentive not to kill somebody like Jeffrey Epstein in prison.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

So that at sentencing... The theory is that if he behaves well while he's awaiting trial, that could be factored into his sentencing and he could avoid the death penalty.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

But for the wardens in this situation, the goal is not just to find a cellmate who's not going to kill Epstein.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

The goal is to find a cellmate who is going to keep Epstein from hurting himself.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

From the time they kind of realize who they've got on their hands here, this is a question that they're asking.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

Because of the nature of the charges that he's facing, there's sort of an automatic assessment for suicide risk that kicks in early on in his time in jail.

The Daily
The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

And