Charles Homans

The prison psychologist who assesses him comes away from those early conversations feeling like actually his risk is not that great.

He seems pretty upbeat.

He seems optimistic that he's going to get bail.

It feels like he's confident about being able to fight the charges against him.

Okay.

So what happens next?

In mid-July, Epstein finds out that he's been denied bail.

And he's going to have to stay in this jail until he goes to trial.

Which could be quite a long time.

Which could be quite a long time.

So we spoke with Tartaglione, and what he told us was that when Epstein came back from this hearing, where his bail was denied, he turned around and asked him, how do you make a noose?

Wow.

So after this, Tartaglione told us he noticed Epstein...

doing what seemed to be making preparations for suicide attempts twice in the days after his bail was denied.

And what did those look like?

In one instance, he was tying a sheet to a grate over the window in the corner of their cell.

Another time, he said he woke up and saw Epstein kind of standing strangely in their cell and looked under his mattress and found a noose that he was hiding there.

Wow.

It's interesting.

One group we found in our reporting that had a pretty clear window