Charles Piller

I think all of those are possibilities. I think also sometimes people deserve a second chance. I think it depends to some degree on the extent of the possible image manipulation, how long it went on, how seriously it might have damaged thinking in the field. Those are things that...

they can be hard to measure, but when you, let me just give you an example from my own reporting, this guy at university of Southern California, who I mentioned, uh, Zlakovich, he, um, There was evidence that he had been doctoring images in ways that had an effect on drug development, that had an effect on scientific thinking for many, many years.

they can be hard to measure, but when you, let me just give you an example from my own reporting, this guy at university of Southern California, who I mentioned, uh, Zlakovich, he, um, There was evidence that he had been doctoring images in ways that had an effect on drug development, that had an effect on scientific thinking for many, many years.

they can be hard to measure, but when you, let me just give you an example from my own reporting, this guy at university of Southern California, who I mentioned, uh, Zlakovich, he, um, There was evidence that he had been doctoring images in ways that had an effect on drug development, that had an effect on scientific thinking for many, many years.

And ultimately, he wasn't able to stay in his job. He's been put on indefinite leave by the university. or he's accepted indefinite leave. It's a little bit ambiguous how they characterize it. But the point is that it's very hard to recover from a pattern of misbehavior that goes back decades.

And ultimately, he wasn't able to stay in his job. He's been put on indefinite leave by the university. or he's accepted indefinite leave. It's a little bit ambiguous how they characterize it. But the point is that it's very hard to recover from a pattern of misbehavior that goes back decades.

And ultimately, he wasn't able to stay in his job. He's been put on indefinite leave by the university. or he's accepted indefinite leave. It's a little bit ambiguous how they characterize it. But the point is that it's very hard to recover from a pattern of misbehavior that goes back decades.

It's very hard to support the idea that a person like that maybe made a mistake and should be allowed to learn from their mistake and improve their behavior. On the other hand, I'm very sympathetic to junior scientists

It's very hard to support the idea that a person like that maybe made a mistake and should be allowed to learn from their mistake and improve their behavior. On the other hand, I'm very sympathetic to junior scientists

It's very hard to support the idea that a person like that maybe made a mistake and should be allowed to learn from their mistake and improve their behavior. On the other hand, I'm very sympathetic to junior scientists

and people who are drawn into either misconduct knowingly or maybe even unwittingly in some of these labs because they're beholden to powerful supervisors, professors, who dictate the future of their young scientists within their lab. And so I think those people deserve a lot of sympathy and a lot of support.

and people who are drawn into either misconduct knowingly or maybe even unwittingly in some of these labs because they're beholden to powerful supervisors, professors, who dictate the future of their young scientists within their lab. And so I think those people deserve a lot of sympathy and a lot of support.

and people who are drawn into either misconduct knowingly or maybe even unwittingly in some of these labs because they're beholden to powerful supervisors, professors, who dictate the future of their young scientists within their lab. And so I think those people deserve a lot of sympathy and a lot of support.

And I've talked to many of them, and it's sometimes heartbreaking, the stories you hear about how difficult it was for them knowing that to talk to me could jeopardize their reputation and their career, even though they were kind of trapped in a training situation where they witnessed wrongdoing.

And I've talked to many of them, and it's sometimes heartbreaking, the stories you hear about how difficult it was for them knowing that to talk to me could jeopardize their reputation and their career, even though they were kind of trapped in a training situation where they witnessed wrongdoing.

And I've talked to many of them, and it's sometimes heartbreaking, the stories you hear about how difficult it was for them knowing that to talk to me could jeopardize their reputation and their career, even though they were kind of trapped in a training situation where they witnessed wrongdoing.

But I'm thankful to say some of them stepped forward because they believe deeply in the integrity of science.

But I'm thankful to say some of them stepped forward because they believe deeply in the integrity of science.

But I'm thankful to say some of them stepped forward because they believe deeply in the integrity of science.

We talked about the peer review process improving. Do you think institutions like the major institutions of the world that are performing the scientific research should be also put on notice that they need to improve some things?