Charlie Foltz

He said, this is missing time where you knew you were paddling toward a fire, a fire that you were looking at.

But yet when you got there, the fire was out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

75.

Nine months.

Nine months before you.

Nine months before us.

Yeah.

And I had never heard of Travis at that time.

Oh, yeah.

We didn't know about any of this shit back then.

We were novices.

It was all new.

Which is one of the reasons we were so intent, as I said to James, to share this knowledge with the world.

I mean, hey, something comes down into my neighborhood and kicks my butt.

And I can't do nothing about it.

I want people to know.

much does this change the dynamic between you guys are you guys talking about this a lot well that night we didn't talk about one word we just more or less all drifted off forget about the fire everybody said so we all drifted off climbed in our sleeping bags and you know close your eyes and then the next morning as we're breaking camp and eating the only thing we could talk about was this thing what the hell was it

What the hell was it?