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Charlie Savage

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

That's a point where, despite the OLC memo, you could see a later prosecutor, I guess this would be in the court-martial system, were there the political will to do so, taking a hard look at that.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

Potentially, down the road, if there's no sweeping preemptive pardon.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

Now, of course, there's also international law.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

There is a court in The Hague

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

in the Netherlands, called the International Criminal Court.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

And it exists as a standing court to prosecute war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

We are not a party.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

The countries of Venezuela and Colombia, among others, are parties.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

And so there are circumstances in which, in theory, American officials could be prosecuted in The Hague for actions, let's say, inside Venezuela, against Venezuelans, in the same way right now.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

The court in The Hague has an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin, even though Russia is not a member of the treaty that creates the court, for his actions in Ukraine, because Ukraine is a member.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

But these boats attacks are, for now at least, all in international waters.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

And these boats are not flying, as far as we know or have seen on the videos, any country's flag.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

They're not registered to Venezuela or Colombia.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

They're just little boats.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

They're not ships.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

And so without being registered to a country, without being in the country's territory...

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

There's no jurisdiction for the International Criminal Court over these attacks.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

So nothing for now, unless this operation spreads to Venezuela, as it might.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

But for now, nothing on these attacks, including the September 2 attack, would come before the International Criminal Court.

The Daily
Did a U.S. Boat Strike Amount to a War Crime?

So on the one hand, it is good that people are paying attention.