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Charlie Songhurst

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

One is it's so boring, no one ever bothers to seize it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So if you look at people that were in a country on the wrong side of a war and occupied by an invading power over the last thousand years, things like houses and artworks were confiscated, things like businesses were nationalized.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

No one ever thought about forestry.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It just sort of slid under the radar.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And then the second interesting attribute of it was that the cash flow characteristics are so terrible, you have to wait 50 years for trees to grow.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

You've got very few investors and very few corporations doing it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Because imagine building an Excel model showing a payback in 51 years that's really sort of only 2% to 3% of your principal.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's so appalling, you never go into it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And therefore, it had these characteristics that really did work superbly well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's sort of interesting to think, what are the digital equivalents of things that have some psychological repellents to them and therefore actually will have great economic capture because there's something unappealing about them?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I think certainly up until 2017, crypto had that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It was such a strange topic.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

The association with things like Mt.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Gox and Ford and things just made it slightly sketchy.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And then the abstraction, the lack of physical reality of it, I think makes it unintuitive to people.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

You can't touch it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

You can't feel it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's sort of numbers in the sky.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Things like that just don't have psychological appeal.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And that absence of psychological appeal is a source of alpha.