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Charlie Songhurst

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I would say it's probably entrepreneurs in markets that are non-obvious.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And I don't mean because their end market is non-obvious.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's people addressing global problems, but in some secondary city in Romania.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

because capital markets at that stage are just not efficient enough to find them.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

There's a famous company, UiPath, I think now worth about 10 billion, that came out of Romania and sort of is a paradigmatic example of that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I think if you were to say, where is there a core option, it's probably something in crypto.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It may exist or it may not exist.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I think one of the great questions is, is everything in that space now out of this exciting like-off space, or is it at the Google and Amazon stage?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

That's a very, very hard question to answer in foresight, irritatingly obvious in hindsight.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

But it does seem there's a probability mass of something being very big there because there's something about finance where it's demarcated by nation state, even though it's a pure electron good.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And so anything that's just pure numbers in the sky should actually be globally scalable.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

But it isn't because of the existing numbers.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

finance regulatory environment and the existing historical paths, sort of banks when they were physical institutions.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

That makes me think this globalization of finance has a potential for multiple trillion dollar market cap companies over the next decades.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It is amazing that if you look at the top 10, maybe even the top 20 by now, companies in the world by market cap, they're exclusively US and China.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

This is an absolutely fascinating stat and says so much about the last 30 years.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

There's a very sort of dark line of thought, which says one of the best things about Europe is that you probably have a less geopolitical risk than

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

any other place.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

There's something about the horrors of Somme and Verdun and Stalingrad that makes it sort of unimaginable for Germany and France to have a conflict, whereas I think it is much more imaginable to have China, India, US, those sort of countries have conflict.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So in some ways, one of the things you have in Europe is a sort of absence of systemic risk of wipeout.