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Charlie Songhurst

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And suddenly topics look very, very different.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And there's a danger of defaulting to this because the US is sort of the world hegemon to defaulting to that mindset.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And that's not always the best, most predictive view.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Of course, after we finish this, I'll think of tons, but I'm sort of failing to think of anything in the moment.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I think there's one I would pick.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It would be, I think one of the things that's sort of fascinating in sort of the history of tech is how much startups are temporal inevitabilities.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So there's a phrase someone said to me, what's the difference between a heretic and a prophet in tech?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

The heretic gets burnt at the stake.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

You know, the prophet becomes famous about two years later.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And you sometimes wonder how much timing matters.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Was a site like Pinterest always going to exist within a year that you could download a page of images on the internet in under 100 milliseconds?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Was that the sort of temporal inevitability of a product like that?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And is it the same for most products?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Was GPS and mobile phone, did that make an uber-like thing inevitable in around 2009, 2010?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

One of the great unknowns is the temporal one.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And then I think the other sort of great unknown is

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

How much of value is actually created for the top layers of the stack by the bottom layers that don't capture it?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So are we all just the beneficiaries?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Is angel investing purely the beneficiary of the emergence of AWS and Azure?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Because I can tell a story whereby angel investing just didn't exist because it was negative ROIC because you had spent so much on some microsystem servers and sort of physical equipment that you just had poor IRR across the whole industry.