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Charlie Songhurst

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Then AWS and Azure come along.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And critically, as a startup, you don't know your own future demand curve because you don't know whether you can get product market fit.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So you either had to buy too many servers, in which case you waste capital, or too few, in which case you couldn't beat demand.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Whereas with AWS and Azure, they've effectively taken that risk out of the equation.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And you can almost know that your cost base only scales with your success.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Is the entire industry just sitting on that?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I kind of had an intuitive feel it probably is.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Better luck than good.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Maybe we get an AI boom in the next couple of years.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Maybe that will be written about as that breakthroughs in ML.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Maybe it's actually NVIDIA's Ampere chips and the emergence of sort of five and seven nanometer nodes just drive improvements in throughput that drives ML up.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So it's nothing to do with the companies that are actually working on it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's to do with the pickaxes being turned from wood to iron, making their work far more efficient.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

But NVIDIA will probably capture some value of that, but probably won't capture the greatest of value.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Same if you were to write a history of early computing in the 90s and 2000s, it'd be interesting to write it from the importance of the evolution of Intel chips and modem speeds as the primary drivers, as opposed to the narrative history of the growth of these great companies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Oh my God, there are so many.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

There are so, so many examples.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I think it's probably a recurrent one of often my enthusiasm has been greater than my competence.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And it's the people that bet on the enthusiasm more than the competence.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Charlie Songhurst โ€“ Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

I'm internally grateful to them.

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