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Charlie Warzel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
493 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And that's always been this like, you know, this this kind of joke that because they're so accepting of that type of person. Right. As long as you're willing to sort of sell the entirety of your soul to that. And I think that that's always kind of a difference between. especially in the big tech space between Republicans and Democrats.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

There's really nothing that Mark Zuckerberg, being one of the richest people on earth who has presided over Facebook for two decades now, there's really nothing he can do to ingratiate himself. Even if he changes all of the policies of whatever, there's always going to be the balls and strikes of content moderation stuff. He's always going to be a capitalist billionaire-

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

There's really nothing that Mark Zuckerberg, being one of the richest people on earth who has presided over Facebook for two decades now, there's really nothing he can do to ingratiate himself. Even if he changes all of the policies of whatever, there's always going to be the balls and strikes of content moderation stuff. He's always going to be a capitalist billionaire-

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

There's really nothing that Mark Zuckerberg, being one of the richest people on earth who has presided over Facebook for two decades now, there's really nothing he can do to ingratiate himself. Even if he changes all of the policies of whatever, there's always going to be the balls and strikes of content moderation stuff. He's always going to be a capitalist billionaire-

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

But I think, you know, that it is like when you do break MAGA or whatever you want to call it, right? There is obviously Trump turns on everyone, but there is this kind of like, you know, okay, like you want to play, that's great. Like we, we will actually give you like sort of the blanket pardon as long as you, you know, walk the line.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

But I think, you know, that it is like when you do break MAGA or whatever you want to call it, right? There is obviously Trump turns on everyone, but there is this kind of like, you know, okay, like you want to play, that's great. Like we, we will actually give you like sort of the blanket pardon as long as you, you know, walk the line.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

But I think, you know, that it is like when you do break MAGA or whatever you want to call it, right? There is obviously Trump turns on everyone, but there is this kind of like, you know, okay, like you want to play, that's great. Like we, we will actually give you like sort of the blanket pardon as long as you, you know, walk the line.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And I think that that's really like is must feel pretty nice for someone like Zuckerberg to just be like, okay, all I got to do is sell my soul, have Joel go on Fox once a week, talk about, you know, Trump being a crusader for free speech. And, um, finally, I can just get some people who are just going to be like, hey, he's a good guy. Yeah. Oh, he's nice. He does. He does a good job.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And I think that that's really like is must feel pretty nice for someone like Zuckerberg to just be like, okay, all I got to do is sell my soul, have Joel go on Fox once a week, talk about, you know, Trump being a crusader for free speech. And, um, finally, I can just get some people who are just going to be like, hey, he's a good guy. Yeah. Oh, he's nice. He does. He does a good job.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And I think that that's really like is must feel pretty nice for someone like Zuckerberg to just be like, okay, all I got to do is sell my soul, have Joel go on Fox once a week, talk about, you know, Trump being a crusader for free speech. And, um, finally, I can just get some people who are just going to be like, hey, he's a good guy. Yeah. Oh, he's nice. He does. He does a good job.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

I think that the changes could be small, right? And it could be sort of on the margin stuff that is going to sound really good to people like Donald Trump, and you're not going to see that much of a difference, right? That's totally possible. It's also possible that this is a classic maneuver by Facebook to push so far in a direction. They historically,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

I think that the changes could be small, right? And it could be sort of on the margin stuff that is going to sound really good to people like Donald Trump, and you're not going to see that much of a difference, right? That's totally possible. It's also possible that this is a classic maneuver by Facebook to push so far in a direction. They historically,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

I think that the changes could be small, right? And it could be sort of on the margin stuff that is going to sound really good to people like Donald Trump, and you're not going to see that much of a difference, right? That's totally possible. It's also possible that this is a classic maneuver by Facebook to push so far in a direction. They historically,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

don't seem to think through the externalities of what they're doing, right? Like for me, the idea of, you know, deranking some of this quality news, you know, whatever stuff, that's a big one. But for me, the biggest one was this focus on groups and communities, right? And just throwing people together based on some of these shared interests.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

don't seem to think through the externalities of what they're doing, right? Like for me, the idea of, you know, deranking some of this quality news, you know, whatever stuff, that's a big one. But for me, the biggest one was this focus on groups and communities, right? And just throwing people together based on some of these shared interests.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

don't seem to think through the externalities of what they're doing, right? Like for me, the idea of, you know, deranking some of this quality news, you know, whatever stuff, that's a big one. But for me, the biggest one was this focus on groups and communities, right? And just throwing people together based on some of these shared interests.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And, you know, every time that Facebook chooses to prioritize something,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And, you know, every time that Facebook chooses to prioritize something,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And, you know, every time that Facebook chooses to prioritize something,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

really heavily its algorithms are pushing people in this way that they don't really notice right they don't really totally understand it's all of a sudden unintended consequences this is my classical oak shoddy and small c conservatism coming out you know you make a big change like this you don't exactly know what's going to come out the back end and and i think you know you saw the sort of logical endpoint of all of that right was like