Chase Hughes

And you don't need some giant agency who's doing this. It's often not some agency. It's usually a group of people with a special interest. Interesting. So you don't need 50 years of hypnosis experience, even though there was most likely a hypnotist involved with Sirhan Sirhan. His name is Dr. Joyland West.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I haven't read it.

I haven't read it.

I haven't read it.

Midnight Climax.

Midnight Climax.

Midnight Climax.

And that was all under Sidney Gottlieb, who's the OSS director, I think, at that time. Was that his position? No. Was he? I think he was. He was the head of MKUltra.

And that was all under Sidney Gottlieb, who's the OSS director, I think, at that time. Was that his position? No. Was he? I think he was. He was the head of MKUltra.

And that was all under Sidney Gottlieb, who's the OSS director, I think, at that time. Was that his position? No. Was he? I think he was. He was the head of MKUltra.

Yeah. But I think he ran that with, and Hoover was kind of sideways involved in that.

Yeah. But I think he ran that with, and Hoover was kind of sideways involved in that.

Yeah. But I think he ran that with, and Hoover was kind of sideways involved in that.

And I have the only existing, well, I have the digital copies of all those letters between him and this guy named Dr. George Estabrooks at Colgate University who were involved and had developed a plan, which I don't think has ever been released by the government, but I found it in Dr. Estabrooks' personal effects and his files. And I'll send you a copy.

And I have the only existing, well, I have the digital copies of all those letters between him and this guy named Dr. George Estabrooks at Colgate University who were involved and had developed a plan, which I don't think has ever been released by the government, but I found it in Dr. Estabrooks' personal effects and his files. And I'll send you a copy.

And I have the only existing, well, I have the digital copies of all those letters between him and this guy named Dr. George Estabrooks at Colgate University who were involved and had developed a plan, which I don't think has ever been released by the government, but I found it in Dr. Estabrooks' personal effects and his files. And I'll send you a copy.

You can put it in the show notes if you want to. But they had a plan to hypnotize. And Dr. Esther Brooks was a classic hypnotist. But he says, I could split someone's personality in such and such amount of time and make them do anything. I could make them forget who they know. And he says, I can do it to an army officer. Here's the step-by-step guide. I'll send you all of this.