Chase Hughes
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And you take the ad in the paper. They say, we'll give you a lunch voucher or a Subway sandwich or something for participating. So you take it up there. You go into this building. You go into a hallway. There's another guy there. You're both volunteers. There's a guy in a lab coat that's running this thing. And he says, we're going to draw straws.
And you take the ad in the paper. They say, we'll give you a lunch voucher or a Subway sandwich or something for participating. So you take it up there. You go into this building. You go into a hallway. There's another guy there. You're both volunteers. There's a guy in a lab coat that's running this thing. And he says, we're going to draw straws.
One of you will be the teacher and one will be the learner. So the other guy draws the learner's straw. He goes to you. You become the teacher. Unbeknownst to you, this other guy is a volunteer. He's in on it. You're the only person participating in the experiment. This guy in the lab coat walks you into this little room, which you can see like an above view right there.
One of you will be the teacher and one will be the learner. So the other guy draws the learner's straw. He goes to you. You become the teacher. Unbeknownst to you, this other guy is a volunteer. He's in on it. You're the only person participating in the experiment. This guy in the lab coat walks you into this little room, which you can see like an above view right there.
Where the T is, that's teacher. The top right. So the T is the teacher, the E is you. The E is the experimenter. That's the dude in the lab coat. Okay. So Patrick is the T right there. So they sit you down at this machine and they say, this is an electric shock machine. And it goes from like 30 volts all the way to the right where it says XXX danger extreme shock.
Where the T is, that's teacher. The top right. So the T is the teacher, the E is you. The E is the experimenter. That's the dude in the lab coat. Okay. So Patrick is the T right there. So they sit you down at this machine and they say, this is an electric shock machine. And it goes from like 30 volts all the way to the right where it says XXX danger extreme shock.
And the goal is, so Patrick, you're going to read these little word groups to this guy in the other room. And before the experiment, they let you go into the other room right there. And you watch that guy get strapped to a shocking device. The L. Yeah, the learner.
And the goal is, so Patrick, you're going to read these little word groups to this guy in the other room. And before the experiment, they let you go into the other room right there. And you watch that guy get strapped to a shocking device. The L. Yeah, the learner.
So you watch that dude get strapped up to a learning device. And you're going to read these words out and see if he can remember them. And if he gets it wrong, you hit this button and deliver a shock. That wall right there is paper thin. It's just some drywall. So you can hear them go, ah, you can, oh, for some of those intro shocks.
So you watch that dude get strapped up to a learning device. And you're going to read these words out and see if he can remember them. And if he gets it wrong, you hit this button and deliver a shock. That wall right there is paper thin. It's just some drywall. So you can hear them go, ah, you can, oh, for some of those intro shocks.
But every time he gets one wrong, you have to take that little slider and move that voltage up one notch. And shock him again. So the guy keeps getting it wrong, keeps getting it wrong. Around 250 volts, he's screaming every time. Around 275, he's saying, I have a heart condition. I want to stop. I don't want to do this anymore. I want to stop. I'm done with this. Come get me out of here.
But every time he gets one wrong, you have to take that little slider and move that voltage up one notch. And shock him again. So the guy keeps getting it wrong, keeps getting it wrong. Around 250 volts, he's screaming every time. Around 275, he's saying, I have a heart condition. I want to stop. I don't want to do this anymore. I want to stop. I'm done with this. Come get me out of here.
Around 400 volts, there's no more reaction. It's total silence, and he's not even answering the questions anymore. So you turn back around to this guy in the lab coat. And you're like, he's not answering these questions anymore. And the guy in the lab coat says, it's important that you continue. The experiment requires that you continue. So any non-answer must be treated as an incorrect answer.
Around 400 volts, there's no more reaction. It's total silence, and he's not even answering the questions anymore. So you turn back around to this guy in the lab coat. And you're like, he's not answering these questions anymore. And the guy in the lab coat says, it's important that you continue. The experiment requires that you continue. So any non-answer must be treated as an incorrect answer.
Please continue. So you keep reading out these words into a microphone and shocking, increase, shock, increase, all the way to this 450 extreme thing. So before this experiment took place, these psychiatrists got together and they said โ How many people are going to go through with this? Who's going to go all the way and kill somebody? Or so they think they're going to kill somebody.
Please continue. So you keep reading out these words into a microphone and shocking, increase, shock, increase, all the way to this 450 extreme thing. So before this experiment took place, these psychiatrists got together and they said โ How many people are going to go through with this? Who's going to go all the way and kill somebody? Or so they think they're going to kill somebody.
The shocks are not real. And they thought 0.8%. You have to be a psychopath. You have to want to hurt people. And in reality, 67% of people went all the way. All the way. This is a big deal. So Stanley Milgram's trying to find out, do people just respond to orders like the Nuremberg trials were going on? And these Nazis were saying we were just following orders.
The shocks are not real. And they thought 0.8%. You have to be a psychopath. You have to want to hurt people. And in reality, 67% of people went all the way. All the way. This is a big deal. So Stanley Milgram's trying to find out, do people just respond to orders like the Nuremberg trials were going on? And these Nazis were saying we were just following orders.
So Dr. Milgram says, let's test to see if that's true. So 250 volts is enough to kill you, right? And 100%, 100% of people went up to 250 volts, 100%. So there's a lot going on there, but none of it, there was no, the guy in the lab coat didn't have some secret hypnosis trick. He didn't have some sales script.
So Dr. Milgram says, let's test to see if that's true. So 250 volts is enough to kill you, right? And 100%, 100% of people went up to 250 volts, 100%. So there's a lot going on there, but none of it, there was no, the guy in the lab coat didn't have some secret hypnosis trick. He didn't have some sales script.