Chase Jarvis

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Yeah.

Well, I think the New York Times, wherever we sit in this weird modern era of journalism and media, they put 80 people on that story.

They tried to do something different.

And it just shows that if you're really focused on innovating and breaking out of the mold, you can do it, even if you're in an industry that's as – at that time was as stagnant as was –

It was basically moved from a physical paper to online, and it was just a replication of that.

And they broke out—the sad twist of that story is that story is about an avalanche, and one of my friends was killed in that avalanche.

So it was extra special to be able to contribute to it for me personally, let alone the work.

I think feature storytelling will continue to see that grow and evolve in the way that that Snowfall piece did as a piece of breakout journalism.

I think the news cycles now are so short.

I mean, newspapers are basically—physical newspapers are dying because it's tomorrow's printout of yesterday's news, which is not interesting to anybody.

So just from a production standpoint, there aren't enough hours in the day to create every news piece like that.

I do think that we'll see platforms that are embedded with those native sort of bells and whistles continue to evolve such that a CMS could drop them into society.

such a thing.

And we're seeing some of that with modern, modern media.

I mean, there was hyper, which is, you know, 10 curated stories every day.

And it was presented in a really beautiful, especially on a tablet experience.

But, um, I think journalism is moving in the same direction as tech.