Chelsea Fagan

Well, several years ago, I made the choice to only really follow women over 50 on social media outside of women that I actually know, obviously.

But in terms of like influencers, creators, things like that.

Um, mostly because I think that if we don't really go out of our way to seek that out, the, um, especially social media really just kind of redounds to this extremely youth oriented view of life.

Um, and I think that ageism and sort of self, um, self loathing around age for, for women, especially is...

Something that you it's a current that you have to actively swim against.

And I do think that for as you know, certainly we're far from perfect, but I think as much as we may have advanced in other ways over the past 20 plus years, 30 years, maybe.

on having more progressive and inclusive ideas of beauty and worth and value and attractiveness and sexuality and all of those things.

I think if anything, we've probably regressed somewhat in terms of age, because I do think that, you know, even looking at just how

How bisected women are in the public eye simultaneously as we're being kind of fed these very regressive narratives around being supported by a man or finding your identity and value in a man.

I think what it often combines to create in women is this idea that they are

if they're unfulfilled, if they're unhappy, if they're, um, you know, in a sexless marriage, if they're, if they don't like their career, if they, any of these things that once they've passed a certain point in life, there's no point in starting over.

There's no point in changing their mind, um, because who would want them or what would be out there for them.

And I think that in and of itself, you know, I think most women know, um, if it's not their own case, personally, they know it in their own family.

They've seen it all around them.

Women who have just lost their

frankly, decades to this sunk cost fallacy of what else is out there for me.

And almost every woman that we've had on the show, their life, I asked them the first question in every episode is when did life really start getting good for you?

No one has set an age under 40.

I think probably the number one is that men have a more natural aptitude toward managing money.

I don't think that's true at all.