Chloe Shih

You plan the offsides.

You get the swag.

You have to take hours of your day to do this thing that no one appreciates you for.

Yeah.

And you're going to resent it.

um i think people they aren't like dicks i would say they aren't extremely opinionated like they're not they don't have a public or you know public as an internal like on your team um

persona of being really hot-headed and like i'm right they're usually the facilitator types i would say and they're like they're the information gatherers are the democratic ones they're like oh let's make sure everyone's feeling like where do you have your opinion shared do you have your opinion shared i think they're more of that type of role yeah the hot-headed ones are like different the hot-headed people you think they end up benefiting from that um

i think about this how do we talk about it i think underappreciated overachievers listen they're very good at listening and to understand what the needs are and then the ones that are strongly opinionated hot-headed going in with their opinion first and then they'll be like what do we think i think this like they'll go in with their their uh take

And then that sets the tone for the meeting.

And then the first topic at hand is their opinion.

I don't think that's very apparent in this archetype.

Yeah.

They ask questions.

They have a lot to learn from too.

Like I have learned a lot from those people.

Like you do have to speak up.

You do have to learn to assert yourself and your opinion.

I think that what I learned was I used to be more of a facilitator type.

And when I became a product manager at Discord, the leadership principles are so different.

Like at Facebook, you are, or at least in the, I don't want to generalize the company so big, but within the teams that I was a part of, you're really, there's so many variables to be on top of.