Chris Appleton

For such a long time, it was such a big secret.

It was the darkest secret that I thought no one would ever know about because I was so ashamed.

I'm not ashamed of anything in my life now.

This is all parts of my journey that made me who I am today.

I'm all right with that.

in my darkest times when I couldn't see myself, she saw me.

And for a lot of years in my life, I couldn't see myself and she saw me and not everyone has that, you know, even when it was so painful for her and the shame of me being gay and how that made her feel.

And, um, I always get upset when I talk about this, but she, she saw me and, um,

and still does in actual fact we spent christmas together with the kids this year and it was new year's eve and the fight with fireworks going off and stuff and it was really cute and i put my arm around her and she said i said oh i did it okay i did it you know because i just brought a house back in the uk which was a game very kind of full circle for me and um well she said oh i always knew you were chris i always believed in you i always knew you'd do it and that

I thought, I said, I didn't.

And she says, I know, but I always knew you'd do it.

And she's just always believed in me.

Always believed in me.

And like, you know, although sometimes me and Kate felt so bad for our kids because they didn't have the conventional family, but they do have, I mean, I think we created two beautiful children we're so proud of.

And it's, it's maybe not conventional, but it's loyal and it's solid.

And,

And there's love there.

Yeah.

So I think there is an unconditional love.

I mean, look, we saw us, we'll argue like cat and dog, but it's just like, there was a pact we made with each other when we met.