Chris Appleton

It was not foreign to me.

And I didn't think much to it.

I was just drunk.

And I'm like, you know, just being a bit crazy because I'm heartbroken and I'm sad, you know?

But then we kind of became friends and we just had, it was a conversation over the phone.

They didn't even live in England.

But that was my first introduction into that of like feeling safe to talk to someone.

It was just conversation.

It went over months and months.

And then I'd started to sort of feel comfortable.

like more but then I very quickly shut that down again which you started to feel I just kind of felt open I knew he was gay and I was you know I'd start to speak to him every day I enjoyed speaking to him so it went from being friends into feeling some sort of more emotional side to connecting to him and then I got very afraid of what that was and I thought I'm just going through something you know I'll be fine so I was fine for a minute

Until I wasn't.

And then once I kind of opened those doors, I then had to understand what had happened for the last, you know, 15 years of my life.

And that took a long time to figure out.

That took years of work.

oh i think it's an unconditional love i think it's the greatest love apart from my kids which we still have um i'll tell you for why because me and kate got together when i was 19 when we broke up when i was 27 it was really dark when i came out as being gay i tried to kill myself which was

Terrible.

I speak about this lightly now, only because- Yeah, you do speak about it lightly.

Well, I just think it's because I've done the work.

Those words don't scare me.