Chris Appleton

It's that tumbleweed effect.

Totally.

It was like social media.

I was posting my stuff, people look.

And honestly, anyone watching social media, we have a love-hate relationship with it, but-

anyone that doesn't want to succeed.

I'm always like, find out what, like sell the sizzle, not the sausage.

Like show people what you're good at.

Show people what your thing is.

My thing was like reinvention.

I love to do different things, even if it was just a little twist on it.

Like when I got the job to do Ariana, it was like a test and I knew she had a ponytail.

I was like, I don't even know if that is her ponytail, if it's her hair.

I didn't know what it was, but I was like,

what could I do that would make me stand out from someone else?

So if there's three of us having a test, what could I do that would just put a little twist on it?

And I'd loved, like I say, these hoops and I kind of was like a ponytail, but with this interesting detail and that kind of, so I think I've always just tried to be like, well, why me?

Why am I going to stand out in that situation?

So yeah, in answer to sort of getting acknowledged, I guess, in America was I did those little things that made a difference.

And then