Chris Appleton

One day I got the call from Kim's team and I walked in and she said, Oh, I've heard you're really good at like wigs.

And I was like, yeah.

Oh yeah.

Cause I think I was changing Christina's hair on the voice.

You see the thing that needs to be done in like wigs.

And then they got known for, and then we did this short, like, I remember Kanye came out and I sat down and had a conversation with him.

He's like, we're doing this and we're doing that.

And she was going to do blonde, and then we ended up doing this short blonde.

And I'm like, well.

I'm an American.

I was just kind of going with it.

So I don't know.

Fake it till you make it.

Yeah, totally.

And then I kind of, we did this like shorter look.

on Kim was different and no one knew it was a wig everyone thought she'd cut her hair off again that was another moment and then people saw that so everything was just like everything was just like a leaping board into the next thing but if I said to you how are you where you're at now like did you just get a call you know overnight sensation no it's like so many little builds right always knock down and then build and then knock down

I was waiting for you to bring that one up.

I mean, I think a lot of people in this situation maybe said that it was reckless, but I think sometimes it can be more about hope than recklessness.

And I think sometimes we shame people too much for, I don't know, following their heart and, you know,

People say, well, I know that wouldn't work.