Chris Duffy

That is our show for today.

Thank you so much for listening to How to Be a Better Human.

I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

A very big thank you to today's guest, Monica Guzman.

Her book is called I Never Thought of It That Way, How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times.

Monica is the Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels.

You can find out more about their work online at braverangels.org.

From Ted, our show is brought to you by Jimmy Gutierrez and Anna Phelan, who disagree respectfully.

Rathu Jagannath and Erica Yoon, who are trying their best to get curious about each other's positions.

And Julia Dickerson, who sticks to the facts and refuses to give an opinion of any kind.

And from PRX, Jocelyn Gonzalez and Sandra Lopez-Monsalve, who both took my number out of their cell phones and put it into an old phone that is glued to their desks.

Thanks most of all to you for listening.

I hope that wherever you sit on the political spectrum, you got something out of this conversation and did not once again feel like I had infuriated you on every level.

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Until then, stay curious.

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I am your host, Chris Duffy, and I love my job.