Chris Duffy

Something that I've always kind of thought is like an interesting, funny little strange thing is how people complain like, oh, I just got friend zoned.

And I'm like, it's so hard to make friends.

That's a great thing.

Like you got friend zoned.

OK, maybe you're not dating that person, but like it's a good thing that you made a friend now.

And yet I think there is this tension of like.

Friend isn't as good as the other.

What happens when you have a relationship and there's this question of whether it would cross the boundary and become a romantic or sexual relationship as well?

You call this in the book a premortem.

I think that's a really great idea.

Before it ends, what would end it?

And so we can talk about what would end it and how do we want it to end when it doesn't.

Raina, that is such a perfect note for us to end on.

We need to think really deeply about what shape of our relationship is going to work for us and then put in the time and the energy and the effort to make sure that we pursue that.

Thank you for being here.

Thanks for making the time to be on the show.

Thank you for your book, The Other Significant Others.

I really appreciate the work you do.

That is it for this episode of How to Be a Better Human.

Thank you so much to today's guest, Raina Cohen.