Chris Duffy

Right.

And also, like, can you afford plastic surgery?

Can you afford these under eye creams?

Can you afford the expensive 10 step process?

Maybe one of the ways we can start to critique these exhausting beauty standards is to critique the way in which we think of needing to have money as necessary to being a good person as well.

You know, there's a classic joke that I get all the time.

I wonder if you get.

But when I tell people what I do, they always go, oh, you have a face for radio.

But it does make me think, having had a career in audio, as we both do, how does that play into your thoughts about visual appearance?

Because we both interact with audiences in a way where they don't really see us.

Well, Elise, thank you so much for being on the show.

Your book Flawless is fantastic.

And I'm so appreciative that we were able to talk about it.

That is it for today's episode of How to Be a Better Human.

Thank you so much to today's guest, Elise Hu.

Her book, Flawless, is out now.

I am your host, Chris Duffy, and you can find more from me, including my weekly newsletter and information about my live comedy shows at chrisduffycomedy.com.

How to Be a Better Human is brought to you on the TED side by Daniela Balarezo, Whitney Pennington-Rogers, and Jimmy Gutierrez, who have never, never once told me that I have a face for radio.

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