Chris Fagan

Morning, Gerard.

You sort of sit back here and go, where should we start?

Do you go through the draft failures they've had over the past?

Do you go through the fact that the coach and the off-field side of things, they're not on the same page from the communication that they've all given and even to what you just played before with Brad Scott and how he was saying he was fortunate because the now president and the now CEO was on the board at the time.

Or do you go through the instability of the board, the fact that the sacking of Brad can get leaked out?

Do we compare them to Carlton, as you mentioned before, where we've spoken about how poor Carlton have been about throwing out a coach whenever things have got tough because of outside noises and the board have faltered to it.

But Essendon have had more coaches since 2008 than Carlton.

So you sort of sit back and go, everyone talks about these big clubs, the history of these two big clubs, the premierships, they've been insignificant for a long period of time.

And there's a reason for that.

No, we were way off, weren't we?

You sort of sit back and go, if he had a clear run of coming in and there was no issues, you could probably understand that.

But since he's been in charge, they've just come out of that, let's hit the draft.

So everyone knew Tassie was coming in.

Everyone knew that the same as what happened with Gold Coast, the same as what happened with GWS.

Tassie were coming in, and the AFL do not want Tasmania to fail.

So they're going to give them an unbelievable draft team.

They're going to give them picks they could trade on.

But the top 10 to 15, the quality ones that you have to rebuild your list, the majority of those are going to be put towards the Tasmanian team so they don't take a long time, like the Gold Coast Suns have, to have some success.

So you sort of go through what they've been.

So since 2020, the failures of the draft where they've had five first rounders that I'm looking at going, in 2020, pick number eight was Cox, nine was Perkins, 10 was Reid.