Chris Gayomali

I think it's more interesting.

Like my curiosity is what kind of drives my interest in it.

But like I said earlier, like it could very well end up being a Fyre Fest thing.

There could be a situation where no world records get broken later when the games happen.

They're all too muscular or they like all like feel terrible by the time they get in the pool and like, you know, the stock price sinks and the whole thing goes up in flames.

But, you know, I do think the question of what is and what isn't a PED, I think that's a question worth interrogating.

Yeah.

And so I think by engaging with that, I find the whole experiment pretty worthwhile, honestly.

Yeah.

Well, I've never spent this much time with libertarian techno-utopianists.

This is kind of like my first stint with it.

But I got to say, they know how to party.

They know a good time.

Um, but, uh, yeah, you know, like, uh, it, it is a lightning rod for the, the culture wars, but, um, I'm sort of less interested in that and more interested in the, the central question of like, what even should a PED be going forward?

Um, I, I wish I had the answer to that.

You know, um, I personally, I feel like if there's anything that can extend an athlete's like time, uh, actually playing and actually like, you know, being visible in the sport, like, you know, back to the LeBron example, like I want to watch him like just play until he's 50, honestly, you know what I mean?

Like that would be my, my ideal.

And maybe he goes back to like playing like a 25 year old again, if he's, uh, allowed to take some stuff.

Um, do you think that's possible?

I think, I think so.