Chris Hare

It put me in all the movement and all the creativity that goes into that, all the analyzing the river and trying to figure out where the fish is, but mostly just for me being in nature, right? That was a part of changing those inputs so that I could shift the, not only the narrative, but the, the outcomes of that narrative.

It put me in all the movement and all the creativity that goes into that, all the analyzing the river and trying to figure out where the fish is, but mostly just for me being in nature, right? That was a part of changing those inputs so that I could shift the, not only the narrative, but the, the outcomes of that narrative.

Yeah, so I'll reframe the question slightly to the best story I've ever felt. And to set that up, actually, I want to, before I get there, I want to, you talked about the fact of your very rational approach. And I love the perspectives that someone who's wired like you versus someone who's wired like me, because I can definitely be more on that.

Yeah, so I'll reframe the question slightly to the best story I've ever felt. And to set that up, actually, I want to, before I get there, I want to, you talked about the fact of your very rational approach. And I love the perspectives that someone who's wired like you versus someone who's wired like me, because I can definitely be more on that.

the other side of the spectrum and how do we integrate those. But Herminia Barra tells this story about a CEO that she coached. And this woman went from being, she was an engineer and she was elevated into CEO. Things were not going well with her team. She was driving the board crazy and was just incredibly rational.

the other side of the spectrum and how do we integrate those. But Herminia Barra tells this story about a CEO that she coached. And this woman went from being, she was an engineer and she was elevated into CEO. Things were not going well with her team. She was driving the board crazy and was just incredibly rational.

And so one of the board members said, coached her and said, you need to be more human. Try telling a story. And her response was very angry. And she said, no, that's manipulation. Why would I tell a story? It's all about the facts. It was interesting that Herminia said to her when she coached her was, and this woman said, I'm being authentic to who I am as an engineer. And what Herminia said was,

And so one of the board members said, coached her and said, you need to be more human. Try telling a story. And her response was very angry. And she said, no, that's manipulation. Why would I tell a story? It's all about the facts. It was interesting that Herminia said to her when she coached her was, and this woman said, I'm being authentic to who I am as an engineer. And what Herminia said was,

You're being authentic to the version of you that got you here. If you want to succeed in this role, there's a different version of yourself that you need to step into and be authentic to that version of yourself. And so it doesn't mean you change your values or your morals or anything like that, but growth. is very uncomfortable, right?

You're being authentic to the version of you that got you here. If you want to succeed in this role, there's a different version of yourself that you need to step into and be authentic to that version of yourself. And so it doesn't mean you change your values or your morals or anything like that, but growth. is very uncomfortable, right?

So I like to think about growth as bespoke shoes or the experiment of trying on different pair of shoes. So if you have the best cobbler in the world, make a pair of shoes for you. It's not guaranteed that they're going to be super comfortable when you first put them on. They might be incredibly uncomfortable.

So I like to think about growth as bespoke shoes or the experiment of trying on different pair of shoes. So if you have the best cobbler in the world, make a pair of shoes for you. It's not guaranteed that they're going to be super comfortable when you first put them on. They might be incredibly uncomfortable.

So when we, Herminia talks about experimenting with different possible selves, when you try on those different types of shoes and wear them, they might be uncomfortable for a week or two. But if it's the right one, eventually it will fit you perfectly. Just wanted to respond on that. In terms of the best story that I've ever felt, it's actually tied to the worst story.

So when we, Herminia talks about experimenting with different possible selves, when you try on those different types of shoes and wear them, they might be uncomfortable for a week or two. But if it's the right one, eventually it will fit you perfectly. Just wanted to respond on that. In terms of the best story that I've ever felt, it's actually tied to the worst story.

It gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. So when things were at my worst, I'd been on disability leave and I went back to Microsoft. So I was at Amazon, went to Microsoft, went out on leave. And when I came back, I had a new manager and the best manager I'd ever had. And he had tattoos all over his arm, Pearl Jam tattoos, the band. I'd never been a fan of Pearl Jam.

It gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. So when things were at my worst, I'd been on disability leave and I went back to Microsoft. So I was at Amazon, went to Microsoft, went out on leave. And when I came back, I had a new manager and the best manager I'd ever had. And he had tattoos all over his arm, Pearl Jam tattoos, the band. I'd never been a fan of Pearl Jam.

In fact, I didn't like them. And I thought, I live in Seattle. Like, I tried to like them. In the 90s, I tried to like them because they were cool and I couldn't. So I asked him, tell me about your tattoos. And he said, it was 1991. So I was driving across Michigan. He called his mom and found out that his dad had just passed away.

In fact, I didn't like them. And I thought, I live in Seattle. Like, I tried to like them. In the 90s, I tried to like them because they were cool and I couldn't. So I asked him, tell me about your tattoos. And he said, it was 1991. So I was driving across Michigan. He called his mom and found out that his dad had just passed away.

So he turns around and drives three or four hours home and he's listening to Pearl Jam on the radio. And one of the songs was the song Alive. It's this really haunting song, beautiful song. He listens to that the whole way home and Pearl Jam has become a part of his healing and healing journey. And so he told me this.

So he turns around and drives three or four hours home and he's listening to Pearl Jam on the radio. And one of the songs was the song Alive. It's this really haunting song, beautiful song. He listens to that the whole way home and Pearl Jam has become a part of his healing and healing journey. And so he told me this.