Chris Hayes

And it could be anywhere in between those things. I'm wondering now, two and a half months later, where you assess our trajectory is on that spectrum.

Right. Okay, good. Well, between you and JBL, JBL's newsletter yesterday was talking about how we shouldn't limit our imaginations that we might be on a path towards Putinism. I'm summarizing it. It was very long, but it was kind of talking about how Putin wasn't Putin in 1998. And like, you didn't really know. I mean, I thought that was a little much even for me.

Right. Okay, good. Well, between you and JBL, JBL's newsletter yesterday was talking about how we shouldn't limit our imaginations that we might be on a path towards Putinism. I'm summarizing it. It was very long, but it was kind of talking about how Putin wasn't Putin in 1998. And like, you didn't really know. I mean, I thought that was a little much even for me.

Right. Okay, good. Well, between you and JBL, JBL's newsletter yesterday was talking about how we shouldn't limit our imaginations that we might be on a path towards Putinism. I'm summarizing it. It was very long, but it was kind of talking about how Putin wasn't Putin in 1998. And like, you didn't really know. I mean, I thought that was a little much even for me.

And I've got about the darkest sunglasses on that you could have. I don't know. I guess my one caveat to that is like, In some ways, it's just horrifying, right? Like you have the four richest people in the world, essentially, like hanging out around Donald Trump. Unlike the other hand, wouldn't I rather that than like Corey Lewandowski?

And I've got about the darkest sunglasses on that you could have. I don't know. I guess my one caveat to that is like, In some ways, it's just horrifying, right? Like you have the four richest people in the world, essentially, like hanging out around Donald Trump. Unlike the other hand, wouldn't I rather that than like Corey Lewandowski?

And I've got about the darkest sunglasses on that you could have. I don't know. I guess my one caveat to that is like, In some ways, it's just horrifying, right? Like you have the four richest people in the world, essentially, like hanging out around Donald Trump. Unlike the other hand, wouldn't I rather that than like Corey Lewandowski?

You know, and might there be some sort of check, like the fact that these like noxious people that we're about to get into next, the Mark and Dreesons of the world and the Zucks, like isn't the fact that they're calling him like a little bit of a check or no for you?

You know, and might there be some sort of check, like the fact that these like noxious people that we're about to get into next, the Mark and Dreesons of the world and the Zucks, like isn't the fact that they're calling him like a little bit of a check or no for you?

You know, and might there be some sort of check, like the fact that these like noxious people that we're about to get into next, the Mark and Dreesons of the world and the Zucks, like isn't the fact that they're calling him like a little bit of a check or no for you?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. I don't have it in front of me, but there was some statement. It just kind of got lost in the shelf a little bit, but there was like a sentence in there that was like any man that's pretending to be a woman doesn't have the whatever integrity. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't have it in front of me, but there was some statement. It just kind of got lost in the shelf a little bit, but there was like a sentence in there that was like any man that's pretending to be a woman doesn't have the whatever integrity. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't have it in front of me, but there was some statement. It just kind of got lost in the shelf a little bit, but there was like a sentence in there that was like any man that's pretending to be a woman doesn't have the whatever integrity. Yeah.

That's a good observation. And I mean, look, I go back to the secret video about the rest vote that the I forget the organization did. Yeah, I'll shut them out in the show notes. But like, he gave away the game all right there. I mean, like the guy, I guess you got to hand it to him. Do you have to hand it to ISIS? I guess you got to hand it to rest vote.

That's a good observation. And I mean, look, I go back to the secret video about the rest vote that the I forget the organization did. Yeah, I'll shut them out in the show notes. But like, he gave away the game all right there. I mean, like the guy, I guess you got to hand it to him. Do you have to hand it to ISIS? I guess you got to hand it to rest vote.

That's a good observation. And I mean, look, I go back to the secret video about the rest vote that the I forget the organization did. Yeah, I'll shut them out in the show notes. But like, he gave away the game all right there. I mean, like the guy, I guess you got to hand it to him. Do you have to hand it to ISIS? I guess you got to hand it to rest vote.

Like he was like, I've spent the last four years basically writing all these executive orders that we've seen in the last week. Like it's essentially what he said, like they were prepared. They knew where the weak spots and the soft spots were, where they could challenge the courts. In some cases, they don't really care if there's a weak spot or soft spot.