Chris Johns

There's the problem, isn't it?

Yeah.

Or not having the electricity for all your ICT needs.

That could be the other thing that drives wages in a different direction.

Okay, Jim, thanks for that.

Just to let people know that after this podcast is published, The Other Hand is probably taking a few days off.

I might get one in next week while Jim is sunning himself on a beach in, where are you going?

Madeira, which is effectively Portugal, isn't it?

It is Portugal, yeah.

I will try to get one in.

I'm trying to line up a guest or two.

But if not, if the other hand disappears next week, it's just because we're on holiday, not because anything sinister is going on.

Thanks to all of our listeners for their patience and their attention.

Jim, I like to annoy you by telling you from time to time that I taught you everything that you know.

back in the day.

But I'm ashamed of that claim now, because obviously I didn't teach you much about tech, did I?

Yeah, I mean, you're hinting there, really, the social contract, something that economists and philosophers have grappled with for a long period of time.

And there are so many different aspects of that.

I mean, some people I've spoken to over the years have often said to me that they think the social contract means that

nobody should hand over more than half their income to the state.